2012 Preseason Rankings - Expectations Not High For Nebraska
I made mention of SB Nation's 2012 college football preseason ranking earlier this week, the one in which Bill Connelly didn't rank Nebraska, but went ahead with ranking Texas and Notre Dame despite their poor performances as of late. (Note that our Virginia Tech site, Gobbler Country, wasn't too thrilled with Connelly not bothering to rank them either.)
I am hopeful that by the time next season rolls around SB Nation will do a voting-based Top 25 in which the college sites on our network do something similar to the Blogpoll, and form our own Top 25. That's not certain, mind you, nor has it been mentioned (and maybe it's best that we stick with the Blogpoll instead since it incorporates a lot of fine sites that aren't part of the SB Nation network).
There will be a early 2012 Top 25 from the Blogpoll next week. It'll be interesting to see how that compares with some of the other pundits around the nation, as well as seeing who's going to be the looniest with their ballot (such as, oh, I don't know, ranking the entire SEC ahead of everyone else).
Andy Staples at SI.com has Nebraska at 16th, behind Michigan State (sixth), Michigan (11th), and Wisconsin (12th).
His counterpart at ESPN, Mark Schlabach, (which I'm not linking because of ESPN's irritating need to automatically play video with sound when you load the page because of a need to raise more ad revenue because ESPN is hurting for money, especially after Craig James left to run for office) ranks Nebraska at 13th, behind Michigan State (ninth), Michigan (11th) and ahead of Wisconsin at 19th.
Mike Heguenin at Yahoo Sports has Michigan at eighth, Michigan State at 13th, Wisconsin at 14th, Nebraska 17th, and Ohio State at 18th.
Steven Lassan at Athlon has Ohio State at sixth, Michigan at ninth, Michigan State at 13th, Nebraska 14th, and Wisconsin 19th.
Dave Miller at National Football Post has Michigan State at ninth, Michigan at 14th, Wisconsin at 16th, and Nebraska at 21st. He makes the curious statement that "The Cornhuskers defensive staff a bit after the Blackshirts didn't have the season that many expected." - which one can take to mean that Carl Pelini left because of poor performance, something I haven't heard and can't lend much credence to.
Last but not least is Brett McMurphy at CBSSports.com, who has Michigan 10th, Nebraska 14th, Michigan State 18th, and Wisconsin 22nd.
Throughout the rankings, there are common themes:
- No one expects the Big Ten to compete for a BCS National Title. The highest ranking of a Big Ten team comes from Athlon, with Ohio State at sixth, and Lassan makes it pretty clear that he expects big things from Urban Meyer immediately.
- Nebraska will not win their division. Key reasons - replacing three starters on the offensive line (center Mike Caputo, and tackles Jermarcus Hardrick and Marcel Jones), Taylor Martinez ability (or not) to develop into a consistent passer, and replacing Lavonte David and Alfonzo Dennard on a defense that wasn't so good in 2011. One can't blame the pundits for any of these - they're all very good points.
- I'm surprised by the expectations for Michigan State. They lose Kirk Cousins, Edwin Baker, and B.J. Cunningham, along with star defensive tackle Jerel Worthy. Ya still gotta score points to win games, right?
- LSU is the team most expect to win the 2012 national title as everyone by Miller had them ranked #1. They return nearly everyone with the exception of Jordan Jefferson, and after Jefferson's performance against Alabama, that can only be seen as a good thing by most. Oh, wait, that other quarterback who didn't get to play in the national title game, Jarrett Lee, will be gone too.
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While MSU will still have components on D
With Gholston (sp?), I agree, you take Cousins out of there, that offense is taking a big step back. And to have them 6th?
In all honestly, my opinion of Andy Staples is that while he can be funny and an entertaining writer, doesn’t really present well thought-out arguments. Wetzel is kinda the same, good investigative journalist, but bad at putting all the pieces together. Even when we agree with a stance, I think he presents a poor argument oftentimes.
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MSU will be better without Cousins
What many people don’t realize is that Andrew Maxwell will better than Cousins. He’s more athletic and has a stronger arm. He was a 4 star, elite 11 qb coming out several years ago. Cousins seemed to always make bad decisions which hurt MSU. Plus they are getting DeAnthony Arnett as a hardship transfer, he is a better replacement for Cunningham. Baker never did anything last year. Bell IS the running back.
How is a new player going to suddenly make better decisions than a multi-year starter?
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 15, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
this
seriously….
every first time starter goes through growing pains…..
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by Jon Johnston on Jan 16, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, those sound like reasonably high expectations
Every ranking except for Bill’s has Nebraska higher than they are right now. In other words, pretty much everyone expects Nebraska to improve, if only slightly.
Which I think is accurate.
Until proven otherwise, I think the last two seasons were anomalies as far as improvement of the team are concerned.
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
I tend to go with the opposite
I’m going to assume right now that what’s happened so far is the norm. We haven’t been given any real reason to believe it’s not.
Agree to disagree, I guess.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Well, I hope you understand if I hope you're wrong.
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Wow those B1G ratings are all over the place
I think Nebraska being ranked anywhere from 18-25 is probably appropriate right now.
I’m not really getting the Sparty love right now, though. Like Jon said above, MSU has to replace far more key components of the offense than do their Legends competitors Michigan and Nebraska. Sixth is way, way too high for a team that narrowly won the Outback Bowl and returns a fraction of its offensive production next year.
I think most of the polls most consistently got Michigan about right. Michigan should be improved again next year, but lets not forget that they were quite fortunate to get to 11-2 this year, and next year’s schedule will be quite a lot harder.
As for Ohio State, I side with the people who refuse to rank them as part of their punishment for cheating. This is a ranking, not a power ranking. I expect a 10-2 season out of them, however, because the Leaders is going to be hilariously weak next year and they get Nebraska and Michigan at home.
I think Wisconsin is a sub-top 20 team. Their passing game is likely to be among the worst in the Big Ten next year, and that’ll sap a lot of the advantage that they’d have ordinarily gotten with Ball’s return. Their defense simply hasn’t been (and I believe probably will continue to not be) all that good. They’ll still be a dangerous team, but I don’t see them as having the offensive diversity to beat the better teams on their schedule.
"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne
I can't believe Ball decided to come back
The chances of him having as good a season next year are slim to none. He’s a good RB, but this decision could end up costing him.
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The only possible explanation is to finish his degree (apparently important to his parents) but I'm guessing he could have done that either through distance education or coming back after he finishes in the NFL, a couple million richer.
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
(He may have not expected Chryst to take half the coaching staff with him to Pitt, however).
Play for the love of the game. A Cornhusker through feast or famine. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
No, he made his decision after Chryst and the staff left
I think he was also shocked by his third-round draft grade and thinks he can improve it with another season in college. That’s doubtful.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
Ah. Not sure why he'd be surprised...
RBs aren’t exactly the problem for most NFL teams.
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
LSU #1 & polling through former prominence
SEC restrictions on oversigning (which if I understand limit teams to to 25 per year? Big deal – you can still run off 15 kids every four years, but I guess it’s something..) probably won’t have much effect on the LSU/Bama juggernauts for a few years. QB could be interesting for them. Mettenberger comes with plenty of baggage having been shown the door at Georgia and Gunner Kiel might be talented, but do you really want a true freshman in there against Bama?
The Texas – Notre Dame preseason rankings I believe just reflect a major shortcoming of the ranksters – there’s a certain degree of laziness once they get out of the top 15 or so. Why find out which So. Miss or Northen Illinois might have shown enough against decent competition to warrant a spot when you can just scribble down a historical name and mumble something about their youth?
(This isn’t a bad thing. Nothing is funnier than Lou Holtz spitting all over Mark May while he makes his annual preseason prediction that last year’s 5-7 Domer team will go to a CBS bowl/win a national title/etc. Already deluded Domer fans then are even more shocked and crushed when powerhouses like North Carolina and Navy piss on the dream. Again.)
Nothing says pre-season polls like high rankings for Notre Dame and Florida State!
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
A CBS bowl
You mean, like, the Sun Bowl?
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 13, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nope a CBS Bowl sorta like..
…well, a dumbass like me trying to type BCS while in a hurry..
by Andy Ketterson on Jan 15, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Ohio St. in the Top Ten?
What am I missing here? Will Braxton Miller suddenly be able to pass and not run himself into bone-crushing hits? Who is the dominant back that will make up for the lack of any kind of air attack?
I’m not buying the “Insert Urban Meyer and Ohio St. is a national powerhouse again” line until it actually happens. Not saying that it can’t or won’t happen eventually, but I don’t see the team with the 2011 105th ranked offense in the country becoming a 2012 top 10 squad right off the bat. I just don’t.
Ohio St. football is a disaster right now and the only good things to happen to them this year were the Wisconsin upset and the Penn St. scandal. They don’t fix that house overnight.
by Andy Ketterson on Jan 13, 2012 10:08 AM CST reply actions
URBAN MEYER. That's your reason.
I think they should remove teams with post-season bans from the BCS/Poll considerations, especially since BCS rankings take those into consideration.
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
They did, actually
USC and Miami tied for 999 in the BCS! http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/bcs
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by KennardHusker on Jan 13, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
Wait, you meant voters polls, didn't you... well, that's a different story.
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by KennardHusker on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
Yes.
Particularly the Coaches and the Harris, since those are the ones that count.
The AP can do whatever they want – they hate thinking as it is.
Play for the love of the game. A Cornhusker through feast or famine. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Good.
For the past two seasons we came in with very high, almost unreasonable expectations. Those expectations looked like they could be met at times, such as when we were up 20-0 in the Big 12 championship, or when we dominated Sparty 24-3. But ultimately we fell short and ended each season with 4 losses. These unreasonable expectations cause fans to overlook obvious weaknesses the team may have, and obvious challenges they need to overcome. Great examples are this year’s defense APART from Lavonte and Dennard, or the difficulties of this year’s schedule.
No one is happy with 9-4 around here, but when you gulp down the Big Red kool-aid you will be disappointed 99% of the time. In a state where college football is king, there’s plenty of kool-aid to go around between January and August. It’s okay to sip on it from time to time, but don’t bet your farm on the Huskers’ success every year.
Generally speaking I am a very glass half-full kind of fan. I think that next year we definitely have the potential to be better if only due to it being the first “normal” season since 2009. In 2010, the story-line was all about it being our last year in the Big 12, the refs screwing us over, and everyone giving us their best shot. Last year it was all about it being our first year in the Big 10, us not having the right personnel to stop big-bruising teams like Wisconsin, and us having to face 13 new teams.
As for ranking…well it depends on how the young team develops. Just a few years ago everyone was saying that Pelini is a master at developing talent, but now everyone seems to think that he has no talent to work with. I completely disagree with that notion, and guys like Chase Rome, Andrew Green, Jamal Turner, Kenny Bell, Tyler Moore, and even Taylor Martinez (still) should improve quite a bit next year. If those guys can take the next step (which I believe they will), then this team could easily exceed these relatively low expectations.
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by Billgrip on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
This year I intend to assume that if Pelini is zen-like and calm during the off-season that we should start panicking.
Play for the love of the game. A Cornhusker through feast or famine. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Preseason rankings don't mean squat!
And here is my first prediction for the 2012 season:
Southern Miss kicks the Big Red’s ass on September 1st!
FIRST NO WIN SEASON IN A REAL LONG TIME.
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Craig James is still running for office even though he killed 5 hookers while at SMU?
Wow.
Do we go fetal and beg for mercy? Or do we pick up that broken piece of pipe laying on the ground and come up swinging? I choose pipe.
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by nateforchiefs on Jan 13, 2012 7:35 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Hey, everyone needs a hobby.
Play for the love of the game. A Cornhusker through feast or famine. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Jan 13, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Preseason
rankings don’t mean a lot but it is kind of fun to see where everyone thinks they will stack up. But Nebraska should be competitive again next year and probably loses 2 to 4 games and ends up in the top 10 to 25. The reason I say that is in the last three years they haven’t been able to put it together and make a BCS game and probably with more experienced talent than they will have next year so I guess my expectations aren’t extremely high. But anything less than 9 wins will have some fans calling for Pelini’s job right or wrong.
Very quick analysis...
The good news is that Michigan and Wisconsin are home games for us. Michigan, in particular, would almost certainly be a loss if it were an away game, but in Lincoln our odds improve exponentially. I say we probably win one of those games and lose the other one.
Some folks have Southern Miss as a wild card, and I agree they can’t be overlooked, but they are still a Conference-USA team playing in Lincoln. I think we win there.
The bad news is we have to go on the road to OSU and MSU. I think OSU is beatable — they will not turn into an SEC West school just because Urban Meyer is there. MSU loses Kirk Cousins and their top four wide receivers, but their defense is loaded and, in East Lansing, I would chalk this up as a loss.
We should beat UCLA on the road (I predict 20,000 Nebraska fans at that game). The same is true with Iowa, although that game won’t be a cake walk. One would expect us to win a road game against Northwestern if, this time around, we can figure out a way to contain Kain Colter.
Assuming that one of the games I have listed as a win goes against us — such being the nature of college football — I think a 9-3 or even 10-2 regular season is a reasonable expectation.

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