Two B1G Ten schools voted against Nebraska during AAU Review?

Some details are revealed by the LJS using Public Records requests. Michigan and Wisconsin...ouch!

9 months ago Wolvie 16 comments 0 recs |

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Keep In Mind...

The head of the AAU used to be the president of the University of……………TEXAS!!
As far as Michigan and Wisconsin are concerned……….what the hell, I’m in a Godfather mood today.

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by Section 37 on Sep 5, 2011 11:10 AM CDT reply actions

That'd be nice if Delany was Michael.

by Wolvie on Sep 5, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions

AAU Membership

Now don’t go on blaming Texas again on a conspiracy theory that doesn’t hold water.

by Ryan2907 on Sep 15, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Michigan is and always will be The Great Enemy.

Wisconsin’s lack of support can be dismissed as its former chancellor being a jerk, but Michigan’s wickedness and treachery know no bounds. You may be leery of an alliance with Ohio State fans on this point, but seriously, screw Michigan.

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by Semicorrect on Sep 5, 2011 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Actually, if you read the article

Ohio State’s Gordon Gee was rather supportive of Perlman, saying something about splitting from them and creating the anti-AAU.

Whether that was lip service, or whether there’s real dissention in the ranks of AAU membership, I’d have no way of knowing.

by Wolvie on Sep 5, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Michigan and Wisconsin were just protecting their own interests.

I’m still trying to discern what benefit other than a membership card the AAU provides to members.

"I did dumb things." - Tim Beck, Nebraska's new OC

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Sep 5, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions

The fact of the matter is, the AAU changed the direction of the organization and Nebraska simply didn't fit in.

Every school with a majority of their research being in agriculture should be worried about their membership being lost.

While it’s a figurative black-eye, no one knew about the AAU until last summer. It didn’t provide any other benefit other than a membership card to the university, unlike membership in the CIC. Nebraska as a school is fine, and the ivory white towers in Madison and Ann Arbor aren’t going to change that.

"I did dumb things." - Tim Beck, Nebraska's new OC

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Sep 5, 2011 12:31 PM CDT reply actions

Well, I think the that the Med School has its own chancellor...

was probably a bigger problem. And no big research school does its majority of research in ag, for instance, its around 20% to 25% for Nebraska.

The Penn State chancellor said they were going to review to metric used to evaluate programs after all this, so the penalties for USDA research may be revised.

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by meatybob on Sep 6, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Whatever revisions they make won't really allow Nebraska back in.

The damage, whatever it is, is done.

But hey, if it inspires Nebraska to fix its undergraduate education and to make sure it has productive, quality professors, is it really a bad thing for the university?

"I did dumb things." - Tim Beck, Nebraska's new OC

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Sep 7, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions

Oh I agree, Nebraska is out....

and I hate to say this, but if the school really made a bigger push to enhance its research credentials, the undergraduate education would probably be the first to suffer. More TAs teaching classes, less time spend on teaching in general, etc. Usually, the two are opposed to each other and rarely, if never, complements.

In many disciplines, the heavy hitters in research really don’t teach much, it gets in the way.

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by meatybob on Sep 7, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions

There are excellent researchers who are equally good teachers.

Nebraska just has to find them.

"I did dumb things." - Tim Beck, Nebraska's new OC

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Sep 7, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Sorry, but excellent researchers don't teach

Listen, I am not coming from a point a ignorance here, I am currently in PhD school. By and large, teaching is something that, more often than not, gets in the way for academics at the large state schools. That is why liberal arts school exist, its for students that wish to have professors that are almost 100% dedicated to teaching. That is not the case with the larger research schools.

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by meatybob on Sep 8, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions

There was an internal agenda to oust us

Moving vote deadlines, slapping our wrist for communicating with other members, revising a 100 year old review process to exclude our strengths. I mean COME ON. How more blatantly obvious can you make it that our removal has been a goal of some of the members in the AAU for some time now.

Association of American Universities? I know more about this “Association” than I would like to, and quite candidly the name sounds made up and serves more as an elite club whose sole goal is to create an academic environment of insiders and outsiders among great educational institutions. I think I will go create my own pointless pompous exclusive club…err association. It shall be called The American Association of Academics. Its first member shall be The University of Nebraska. IVY league schools are exempt. All land grant and agriculture based schools please apply.

by BledRed on Sep 6, 2011 9:06 PM CDT reply actions

I just wonder...the conspiracy theorist in me

I wonder how far back this really goes. The direction of the AAU to the point where a vote would be taken to eventually oust Nebraska and similar schools. In this frame of mind, it helps clarify just why Perlman was, shall we say “anxious”, to talk to Delaney when he did.

Think about it. What if we had affirmed our committment to the Big 12 last year? We’d be sitting in Lincoln watching A&M trying to get to the SEC, and we’d probably be one of the schools, like freakin’ BAYLOR, threatening to sue to keep them (and thereby Oklahoma) in the conference.

We don’t fit geographically or culturally with the Pac-12, we don’t really fit with the SEC either. What would we be doing in the ACC (Nebraska…Atlantic Coast) or Big East (Nebraska…east)? Our only real option other than the Big 12 is the B1G Ten. And if we’re here in September of 2011, in the Big 12, with no AAU membership, that’s not really an option either. We’d be screwed.

So, Perlman says “this place is ricketty, I better make a play for a B1G Ten membership now while I still can, before this conference folds”.

by Wolvie on Sep 7, 2011 7:39 PM CDT reply actions

Certainly was on Perlman's mind.

For all the mistakes Perlman has made, he nailed this one. And he’s set the university to potentially improve, assuming the administration doesn’t make too many new mistakes.

"I did dumb things." - Tim Beck, Nebraska's new OC

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Sep 7, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions