Pac-12 To Stay, Missouri To SEC, Iowa State To MWC - Or Not - What's It All Mean?
Earlier tonight the Pac -12 chancellors and presidents voted to reaffirm to stay at 12 members, meaning that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State won't be invited to the conference. There's some indication that the reason was because of Texas (GASP!) and the realization that with Texas add to the conference that the idea of equality would be thrown out the window.
This comes just a few hours after Oklahoma president David Boren made public reforms that would needed to take place for them to stay in the Big 12, amongst them the removal of Dan Beebe as commissioner and establishment of firmer rules for the Longhorn Network, which remains the main reason for the de-stabilization of the conference.
Just when it looks like the Big 12 might survive, a report was release that Missouri has reached an agreement to join the SEC, becoming the 14th team after Texas A&M. That report was denied by the SEC, stating that no agreements had been reached with any school other than Texas A&M.
Missouri apparently isn't the only school talking to other conferences (as if there's any chance they aren't all talking to someone) Iowa State confirmed that they're talking to the Midwest Conference.
What's it all mean?
In a nutshell it means that the Big 12 will mostly likely survive another year. Or a few weeks, at least, although it's gotten to the point that even Texas fans are disgusted with their school's actions.
If there's anything certain, it's that Dan Beebe's reign as Big 12 commissioner is over. When a school with the clout of Oklahoma demands your ouster publicly and complains you're being too favorable to one school (Texas, as if I have to write that), you're done if for no other reason than someone must be sacrificed to appease the angry throngs of fans.
The popular opinion is that the Big 12 will dissolve. Right now that looks doubtful. As long as Texas and Oklahoma stay in the conference, and that looks like what is happening, the conference will remain viable. Changes will need to be made, ala Boren's demands, but the conference is still the best location for Oklahoma as they get to keep their main rival, Texas, and they get a bigger piece of a decent-sized pie rather than split it amongst more conference members.
The same remains true for a school like Iowa State. The Mountain West might provide a more competitive landscape, but the money (something Iowa State sorely needs) would be much less.
What's next? No one knows, and when I say that, I mean NO ONE. There are too many moving parts for anyone to have a handle on what will happen over the next few months (weeks? days?). Everyone has decisions to make, all dependent upon everyone else's decisions, particularly when it comes to the Big 12.
There's no question the conference is unstable. The question is - can someone be found with the negotiating prowess that makes the existing schools understand it's in their best interest to stay.
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Thanks for staying up to cover this Jon
First: I’m happy. I know this probably won’t last for long, but I hate hate hate the superconference idea so the longer it holds off, the happier I am.
Second: Assuming the Missouri to the SEC thing is true, where does that leave the Big Ten? Obviously Notre Dame is team one, but for quite some time I thought Mizzou was team two. With Pitt, Syracuse and now Mizzou off the table I think the Big Ten has GOT to look at either Oklahoma or Texas if they plan on going to 16. Otherwise I think they’re looking Notre Dame and an ACC school and staying at 14.
"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne
Missouri to SEC!
No way the Big XII keeps it’s tv deal with A&M and Missouri leaving. That’s way too many eyeballs gone.
by BledRed on Sep 21, 2011 2:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I know Texas is a huge cash cow and for the conference,
but if they really can’t play nice with everyone else, why doesn’t the rest of the Big XII vote them out of the conference and replace them? Wouldn’t that create stability?
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I really don't think...
that the conference could survive without Texas.
"The guts carry the feet, not the feet the guts."
- Cervantes
Or Oklahoma.
Those two are forever bound to each other.
"I did dumb things." - Tim Beck, Nebraska's new OC
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Sep 21, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately (or fortunately)...
That’s what we use to say about Nebraska and Oklahoma when it was the Big 8.
So, the recent 15 years
trumps the several prior decades that they weren’t conferencemates?
My comment was in relation to the Big 12, and I can't see OU or UT getting out by themselves.
And I think ESPN/media dictates they have to be BFFs.
"I did dumb things." - Tim Beck, Nebraska's new OC
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Sep 21, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That train has left the station, I'm afraid
It would’ve been pretty easy to pull off had Nebraska and A&M still been in the conference, but no more…especially with Mizzou bailing now.
"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne
Where's Mizzou going?
SEC is hoping A&M changes its mind.
Then everyone will laugh at the ACC.
"I did dumb things." - Tim Beck, Nebraska's new OC
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Sep 21, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I was under the impression that Mizzou to the SEC was pretty much a done deal
In any case, Mizzou can’t successfully co-anchor a BCS conference.
"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne
I'm not convinced of Mizzou's departure.
But hey, I didn’t see the ACC expansion coming. So maybe?
"I did dumb things." - Tim Beck, Nebraska's new OC
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Sep 21, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank goodness we got out when we did.
Texas has been masterful in pulling the puppet strings here. I feel bad for everyone who is left to be eternally tormented in Texas’ hell.
by Trey Hillman's Chin on Sep 21, 2011 9:49 AM CDT reply actions
from our friends at the grantland.com
According to a report, the University of Oklahoma is willing to stay in the Big-12 if the conference agrees to certain reforms.
The first reform is no more of those awful catered sandwiches at meetings.
The second reform is to rename the conference “SoonerMania.”
The third reform is to let Oklahoma and Texas go to the Pac-12.
I must be missing it
but where on that link were texas fans disgusted with themselves? All the comments I saw were them crowing about how bad Oklahoma looks now.
i think
you’re seeing a lot of regret amongst BONers that they’ve created the Longhorn Network, and that they wish they hadn’t. A lot see it as not worth the trouble.
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by Jon Johnston on Sep 22, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions

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