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Miami Trades Football Program For Free Sex, Drinks, Cash

Oh, those Miami Hurricanes. It's not that you knew they were dirty. It's just how incredibly dirty they were - how the acts of utter stupidity keep going until you know they're going to set a new standard for how incredibly rotten a program can be. 

Just like a Hollywood movie (NO IT'S NOT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE THE BALLS TO WRITE THIS), a booster who's also been found guilty of a nearly billion dollar ponzi scheme gave players money, hookers (FOOTBALL PLAYERS SO LAME THEY NEEDED TO PAY FOR SEX?), access to night clubs, yachts, agents, and Donna Shalala (YES, DONNA SHALALA!). 

Star-divide

I'm not here to gloat (YES! I! AM!), but the fact that it's the University of Miami Hurricanes should come as no shock to any Husker fan anywhere, ever (OK, MAYBE BEFORE 1982). 

So many questions.... so many... so extensive... but the one that comes to mind is - Is there anything, anything at all, that Miami can do to themselves to save their football program (HUMAN SACRIFICE WE PRESENT YOU DONNA SHALALA'S HEAD ON A STICK) from complete destruction.

I realize the NCAA doesn't want to use the death penalty again after SMU, but if this isn't worthy, then nothing is and nothing will be ever again.... okay, maybe if an entire football team went on a serial killing streak of girl scouts and nuns then weren't convicted because of a biased jury (WHICH COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN SEC COUNTRY). 

One thing is certain - if the NCAA had any second thoughts about implementing tougher NCAA penalties, they sure as hell don't have them now. (ALL THE OHIO STATE FANS WISH TO SEND 'CANES FANS CARDS AND PRESENTS IF ONLY THEY COULD FIND THEM THE FICKLE BASTARDS THAT THEY ARE.)

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The NCAA is like our President,,,,

they carry a big stick, but are afraid of swinging it for fears of hitting someone,,,and nobody want’s that lawsuit!!! And people wonder why they call it Thug U???

Rock out with your Stalk out!!!
Smoke em' if you got em'!!!
Low and Slow!!!

by sd.husker on Aug 16, 2011 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Aren't teams that break the rules

supposed to, you know, win occasionally?

by alacy9513 on Aug 16, 2011 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

The scope of the allegations is unreal

I’ll throw in the obligatory “if this is true” preface, but the article/investigation that Yahoo has published on the NCAA football section looks pretty solid in the depth of its research. If so, the magnitude of this is just beyond belief.

I don’t remember all the things that went into the 86ing of SMU’s football program under the Death Penalty, but I’d love to see a side-by-side comparison of the offenses.

All of Ohio has to be smiling, because no matter what your opinions of the Buckeyes were, they look positively saintly in comparison to this now.

by ManAgainstWorld on Aug 16, 2011 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

This is NUTS,,,

does the NCAA have any power to do anything anymore????

Rock out with your Stalk out!!!
Smoke em' if you got em'!!!
Low and Slow!!!

by sd.husker on Aug 16, 2011 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha, this reminds me of something

The Sports Argument Wiki has for years described the Miami football team as “a cocaine smuggling ring operating under the guise of a football program”

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Aug 16, 2011 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

WOW,,,,

that rough,,LOL

Rock out with your Stalk out!!!
Smoke em' if you got em'!!!
Low and Slow!!!

by sd.husker on Aug 16, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm only hearing parts of this...

…but so far, everything suggests that the death penalty has to be in play here, when all is said and done.

by Husker Mike on Aug 16, 2011 9:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Should be, but probably won't

Which is unfortunate. So much talk has been “OMG, look at SMU, they’ll never give the Death Penalty again”, which right there diminishes the threat. So what if you go “on probation” and “forfeit wins”? Teams like Miami will do what they want, because the threat of “no more football program” isn’t there.

by Wolvie on Aug 16, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I smell

a new 30 for 30 movie in the works…

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

by Brizzle T on Aug 16, 2011 9:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Or keep them and bring in another top-tier opponent.

Following the SMU timetable…The U’s football program is shut down in ’12 and ’13, then new coach Tony Dungy* brings his band of freshmen to Memorial Stadium in ’14 and the ’14 Huskers play it like a glorified scrimmage, playing the starters for about two quarters.

I don’t see the Miami program getting shut down completely. If they didn’t shut down SMU entirely, they’re not going to shut down Miami. However, I can see the NCAA stronly encouraging a shift to FCS or even D-III.

* or another established coaching name with a relatively squeaky-clean past

by jrf2027 on Aug 17, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or we could play against their law students

It is what it is and we are who we are.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.

by nateforchiefs on Aug 17, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is incredible!

I tell you what, I was thinking that things in Oregon stink more and more, especially with their QB getting pulled over after smoking weed and Captain Chip making friends with all kinds of street hustles and low-level punk criminals. Heck, they should get hammered, but compared to Miami, maybe they should just get sent to the corner!

by Todd Wolverton on Aug 16, 2011 9:51 PM CDT reply actions  

What does Massoli smoking weed have to do with the NCAA?

"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav

by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 16, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW... Guess what... Nebraska's implicated here as well...

Remember Benard Thomas? He joined Kellen Winslow, Jr. and D.J. Williams for an evening of food, drinks, and jet skis on Shapiro’s yacht.

(image courtesy of Yahoo! Sports)

by Husker Mike on Aug 16, 2011 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Ugh

So can we vacate 2002 now?

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

by Brizzle T on Aug 16, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Benard's response was that this happened after he'd already finished playing football..

and at least he responded.

I doubt this hurts us any, if at all, since the guy wasn’t our booster, and while he might have been a known agent, well… the connection is still pretty loose.

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by Jon Johnston on Aug 16, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

He played in 2003...

And the article says that the party happened in the summer of 2003. But like you said, I can’t imagine the NCAA doing much to us (how the hell are we supposed to control what our players do with their friends and another school’s booster over summer break?!)

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Aug 16, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that'll fly with the NCAA...

…remember that Eric Crouch once ran afoul of the NCAA for a ham sandwich.

That being said, I think there is a 4 year statute of limitations, so I don’t think nothing is going to come of it.

On the other hand, Missouri might not be so lucky….

by Husker Mike on Aug 17, 2011 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, the 4 year statute of limitations doesn't apply

if there is continual violations from the same booster. It applies to individual, isolated incidents. Shapiro’s work goes back 8 some years.

But yes, I doubt much would come from this. And I hate Jon Vilma,btw.

Google's homepage celebrates too much shit.

by meatybob on Aug 17, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is craziness

I have read and reread the report on Yahoo!, and I just can’t fathom the hammer the NCAA is going to have to hit them with. I keep hearing they won’t inflict the death penalty, but I’m not sure how they can’t. This is absolutely the most insane story I think I’ve ever read.

Always check the words with the red squiggly line. They mean you probably screwed up.

by KennardHusker on Aug 16, 2011 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Just read the Yahoo report,,,,,

can the NCAA really go easy on this program and keep any integrity? Sad situation brought on only by themselves,,the “U” that is. I think somehow they’ll squeak by with a slap on the wrist! Major stuff going on there!!!

Rock out with your Stalk out!!!
Smoke em' if you got em'!!!
Low and Slow!!!

by sd.husker on Aug 16, 2011 11:02 PM CDT reply actions  

The question becomes

How much of this occurred long enough to fall outside the statute of limitations. I believe the NCAA must begin an investigation within 5 years of the alleged infraction or its out

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 17, 2011 1:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Keep in mind

There is an “exceptional circumstance” clause that allows the NCAA to look beyond the usual r-year window. If something like this doesn’t fall within that spectrum, then I’m not sure what ever would.

by ManAgainstWorld on Aug 17, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are implying that they have integrity now

It is what it is and we are who we are.
Sober (again) since January 10th, 2011.

by nateforchiefs on Aug 17, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure why this just now occurred to me, guess I awas in full on shock mode at all this; look at how much of this went down while Randy Shannon, Mr. runs a clean program but cant win big, was the head coach. I will not take much pleasure in this except to see Shalala roast.

"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav

by otisnixon'sparty on Aug 16, 2011 11:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Any other

fanbase would be appalled, but after watching the sloppy blowjob of a doc that was “The U,” I can only assume Miami fans are pissed the benefits aren’t happening anymore. “They were just doing what they needed to do by stealing car stereos…”<—paraphrased, but it’s actually in the movie, if you haven’t seen it. Eff em in the a and don’t use vaseline.

Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

by Brizzle T on Aug 16, 2011 11:20 PM CDT reply actions  

For those of you looking ahead (me)

Might as well mark down those 2014 and 2015 games against Thug U as W’s.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Aug 16, 2011 11:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Not until we get to the game. You don't know what will happen (if anything) by then

You’d like to think the NCAA would act by then. But I won’t hold my breath.

by Wolvie on Aug 16, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I might be overly optimistic

But this is probably the worst flouting of NCAA rules….ever. I expect them to come down hard, and fast (ie, next year).

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Aug 16, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never underestimate bureaucrats abilities to stretch red tape in the name of "due diligence"

“But…but…I’ve given you all the paperwork and photos and witness accounts. It’s all been indepentently verified. They’re guilty!”

“Yes, well, we have to be sure. We’ll get back with you in a year or two.”

by Wolvie on Aug 17, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

So unbelievably schadenfreude.

"I have never been noticeably reticent about talking on subjects about which I know nothing." Prince Phillip

by Go Big Rev on Aug 17, 2011 8:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Well, you gotta give them some credit...

If you’re going to dismantle a football program, you may as well do it by bangin’ whores, partying on yachts, and drinking yourselves stupid – rather than selling some of your shit for tattoos, of all things.

Miami U, my hat goes of to you. You went out with a bang, now just stay gone, please.

by SteveW0720 on Aug 17, 2011 9:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Can’t spell corruption without The U

by jigglebelly on Aug 17, 2011 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

An Abortion and On the field bounties for hurting opposing players

I think those two things really push this over the edge. If they don’t get the death penalty, the NCAA looks weak.

by Billgrip on Aug 17, 2011 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

And the hookers and drugs didn't push this over the edge?

I completely agree that the NCAA looks weak if they don’t shut down Miami’s program for a year though. I think they will. Miami has the talent base and resources to recover better than SMU. They might be bad for a decade, but they’ll bounce back.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Aug 17, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least Paul Dee, former Miami AD, is no longer on the COI

The current Chair of the COI is Dennis Thomas, the commissioner of the MEAC. And I don’t really see any friends for Miami currently on the COI.

The entire list, for those who are interested:
http://web1.ncaa.org/committees/committees_roster.jsp?CommitteeName=1INFRACTION

by jrf2027 on Aug 17, 2011 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

This has to mean the death penality

It is just so bad. Blows away anything that SMU did.

Google's homepage celebrates too much shit.

by meatybob on Aug 17, 2011 11:33 AM CDT reply actions  

No it doesn't

Is what Miami did bad? Abso-fuckigng-lutely. But it was still an outside booster run amok. With SMU, it was school officials themselves that were handing over the money-stuffed envelopes.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Aug 17, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, so...

This is now a program with a history of problems and this is just SO much including knowledge from coaches themselves and absolutely no oversight from the athletic department. Is the athletic director ignoring it going to be any different than dealing with it?

I just don’t think the school-officials-not-directly-involved reason is going to be the barrier that has to be crossed to think that Miami isn’t getting hit. Its not like in the NCAA rulebook has it written that school officials must be involved for it to hammer a school with death penalty.

Google's homepage celebrates too much shit.

by meatybob on Aug 17, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The U Vacation

There is no doubt that if all of these allegations are found to be true before NCAA investigators that the U will face a 1 year ban of football along with being stripped of its right to vote at NCAA conventions for four years. There is no other choice given the harsh sanctions that USC received for 1 players conduct. This is for 70+ players over many years! Ridiculous.

by BledRed on Aug 17, 2011 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Another thought I've had

The NCAA has to give Miami the death penalty just as much as Miami deserves it.

1. The NCAA is already dealing with a bunch of serious offenders who deserve pretty severe punishment, but everyone agrees what OSU or UNC did was nowhere near as bad as Miami’s situation. Miami will set the ceiling on punishment. If that ceiling is any less than a 1 year ban in football, OSU and UNC won’t get what they deserve either and the NCAA will be called out as soft.

2. The NCAA at their meetings a couple weeks ago made “getting tough” on serious violators a priority. Let Miami skate and that talk is proven to be empty.

3. The NCAA has a bad history of being both soft and inconsistent in its punishments. If they just take some schollies and institute a bowl ban, that’s awfully close to what USC got for the Reggie Bush thing….1 player vs 72….hmmmm.

Death penalty + bowl ban + loss of schollies for Miami. Take some schollies from OSU and UNC and leave it there.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Aug 17, 2011 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

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