Corn Flakes: The Day After Michigan
by JLew on Nov 20, 2011 1:40 PM CST
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PrintI hate doing these after a loss, but there are things that need to be said.
I watched the first half, then was driving home. My Dad called during my drive, and I thought either Nebraska won the game on a great play, or they were in a full meltdown, he wouldn't call for any other reason. Well if you watch the game you know the reason for the call.
The links outline the long list of problems from the game. Go ahead and chime in with your thoughts.
'Murphy's Law' game leaves NU with lopsided loss - Omaha.com
Four personal fouls. Three fumbles. Three sacks. A 23 percent third-down conversion rate. Two dropped coverages that led to touchdowns. One dropped snap that led to another.
and this isn't even all the issues, coaching, dropped passes, ugh just kill me now.
Husker Mike's Blasphemy: Big Loss in the Big House as Michigan Dominates the Huskers
While that ended any chances Nebraska had to come back, the horrible officiating was not the reason why Nebraska lost this game. Michigan's defense dominated the Huskers today, and it started up front. No room to run whatsoever meant Nebraska needed to throw the ball...and the receivers pretty much sucked all day long. Make a catch, keep a drive alive...maybe something happens for the Huskers. And we can't go into this review without bringing up special teams: two fumbled kickoffs? A blocked punt? These errors turned a 10 point loss into a 28 point trip behind the woodshed. It was the final straw that made this game way too ugly.
Oh yeah the horrible officiating! I've been warned that the officials in the B1G were horrible, and they were against Nebraska on Sat.
More of what you don't want to read after the jump.
Report card: Nebraska-Michigan
GAME MANAGEMENT (A) Why an "A"? Because somebody has to give Bo Pelini credit for not going Lee Corso (see Corso's on-air slip-up Saturday) on this officiating crew. That's the first roughing-the-punter call I've seen in which the punter wasn't touched. Roy Roundtree's long reception in the first quarter came after he pushed off. And the Big Ten will review every TD that comes within 20 feet of a pylon, but not an obvious fumble by a quarterback? Despite Nebraska's equally bad showing, we'll hold the officials accountable (since nobody else does).
OVERALL (F) The lack of focus and concentration by this team in some games really is dumbfounding. That's really the only explanation for the many errors Nebraska made Saturday. How can a team be so focused and prepared for Michigan State and Penn State, and look so lackluster, bewildered and out-of-sync in losses to Wisconsin, Northwestern and Michigan? The answer: leadership. The inconsistent, up-and-down label can be firmly slapped on Bo Pelini's program.
Yep some are starting to question this coaching staff. And I have to agree.
Shatel: Out of Legends race, loss raises questions - Omaha.com
What should be a burr is the idea that in year four, Pelini’s Huskers are getting blown out by 20th-ranked teams, saddling themselves with senseless penalties (and one horrible roughing call), turnovers and uninspired play-calling and execution. In games where the Fiesta Bowl is cheering for them to show up.
And another one, it's starting to become a major concern. This is Bo's team now.
Michigan's defensive plan works by limiting Martinez, Burkhead - Omaha.com
"We had a plan going into it," Garrison said. "Twice we didn't recognize things and we didn't pick up the pressure on it. Falls back on me. I need to do a better job with these guys and make sure they understand that."
Steven M. Sipple: Husker defense stressed out by Mr. Robinson
Nebraska botched a couple chances to make interceptions. The Husker secondary had decent coverage a few times, and receivers simply worked harder to make plays.
To be honest between Nebraska shooting themselves in the foot and the officials handing Michigan more gifts I don't know who the better team was. I feel like we were cheated out of a good game by the poor play and the officials.
Scout.com: at Michigan 45 … Nebraska 17
It was as if Nebraska’s D knew it was on center stage last week. It missed too many stops and was out of position too often against the Wolverines. … A ten-win season is still possible with a win over Iowa and a bowl victory. This might not have been the season the Huskers were hoping for, but a 9-3 regular season finish would hardly be anything to criticize.
No! No positive articles today.
Third quarter was a disaster for Nebraska special teams
Late in the third quarter, Nebraska closed to 31-17 and appeared to have a little momentum. The Huskers forced a Michigan punt early in the fourth quarter, but Wil Richards was flagged for roughing the punter. The 15-yard penalty gave the Wolverines a first down, and seven plays later, they scored to make it 38-17. "That was not the right call, bottom line," Pelini said about the roughing call.
Nebraska Cornhuskers vs. Michigan Wolverines - Recap - November 19, 2011 - ESPN
"Our mindset has just changed 360 (degrees) and now it's showing," senior defensive tackle Mike Martin said.
If you changed 360 degrees, you'd be pointed in the same direction you were facing. Hey I'm sick of hearing about how great Michigan is and I can only link to the turnovers and bad officiating so many times.
NU volleyball earns share of Big Ten title
Nebraska (23-3, 16-2 Big Ten) plays at Iowa on Tuesday and at Northwestern on Saturday, giving NU two chances to win the title outright against the 10th- and 11th-place teams in the conference.
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refs weren’t great for either side in my opinion. I said it before, I thought we got away with some pass interferences against their receivers. The bad call on the punt is magnified because at that point in the game momentum was up for grabs and looked to be swinging in our favor. But, the defense immediately gave up a long drive after the penatly. Calls go your way and don’t go your way you have to overcome them if you want to win. The fact is we got schooled in the trenches all day. And with our usual inability to hang on to the football (be it fumbling or catching) it killed any chance of a victory on Saturday. And you have to give Michigan’s defense credit they had an answer to what we wanted to do all day. They looked better prepared and more focused plain and simple.
Disagree on the refs
I agree Michigan clearly played better and deserved to win, but the officiating was completely one sided.
-Nebraska’s first possession: lots of contact by Michigan’s corner on 3rd down, no call, Nebraska punts.
-Michigan’s second possession: Michigan receiver pushes Dennard down, catches huge pass on 3rd down, no flag thrown, drive ends in TD.
-Nebraska’s second possession: Martinez pass dropped on 3rd down because of blatant interference by Michigan defender, not called.
-The third down DPI on Thorell that gave Michigan first and goal was weak, especially considering the crap Michigan got away with earlier.
-The roughing the punter penalty was ludicrous and resulted in yet another Michigan touchdown.
By my count, that’s 18 points Michigan wouldn’t have otherwise had and who knows about the non-calls of DPI’s when NU’s offense was on the field.
"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne
Cmon guys...
Cmon guys, there were at least 2 third-down pass interferences on Nebraska that went uncalled.
If you watch the Big Ten this year, they’re letting defensive backs be more physical across the board. Watch Michigan versus Iowa and you’ll see the exact same thing: Hawkeye DBs harassing Michigan receivers, especially on the goalline stand at the end of the game. Don’t be those guys to blame the refs.
Anyway, hope the Huskers that made it to Ann Arbor were treated well! Looking forward to next year. Good luck in the bowl game!
by Good Ol' Oakley on Nov 21, 2011 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't get to see the game, so can't comment on any of the officiating
But I have yet to see anyone here blame the refs for Saturday’s loss. Every single complaint at CN about the refs since the game on Saturday has been accompanied by the caveat that the refs weren’t the reason Nebraska lost. Saying the refs were bad is not the same thing as blaming them for the loss, and you’re conflating the two.
by Cheeseandcorn on Nov 21, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Came here looking to see what Nebraska fans thought of AA ...
but to see paragraph on paragraph of whining about the officials … ? C’mon – Nebraska didn’t show and got dominated for their lack of being prepared. Time of Possession 41 minutes to 19 ? doubled in yardage, Nebraska didn’t convert a 3rd down until late in the 3rd quarter ? They played a defense that gave up 1 big play all day and a team that knew how to tackle and pressured the QB. Michigan’s defense took the running game away and sorry, but Martinez is not a good QB when he HAS to throw.
Finally … the college rule is clear. If you TOUCH a punter when he is in the air it is an automatic personal foul – no referee judgment. If the punter has landed then gets touched the ref can then use his judgment. So like it or not it was the right call and yes it was big …. but you cannot assume that Nebraska would have scored on that possession … they had plenty of possessions all day.
Also .. I am still hoping that the fans that went found AA better than Madison. I plan on coming out next year to Lincoln because I have heard nothing but great things about the fans there.
The Roughing the Punter Call was Terrible
I’m a Michigan fan and I readily admit it was terrible. The rule is that if a player is going for the block, cannot stop, and thus inadvertently contacts the punter in a non-flagrant manner, it’s running into the kicker. Furthermore, if the punter simulates being roughed, it’s a 15 yard penalty on the punter and the calls offset. Hagerup fooled the refs, and if I were a Nebraska fan I’d be livid about that call when it happened because it was terrible. However, I’m not, so I applaud Hagerup for his acting and would be very happy if he was able to do so again this upcoming Saturday*.
*Actually, I’d prefer that we score on every possession, but if we have to punt, a good acting job would be just fine.
Thanks for the rules link !
But its obvious that you did not read the section on roughing :
“The kicker’s protection under this rule ends (a)when he has had a
reasonable time to regain his balance(A.R. 9-1-16-IV); or (b)when he
carries the ball outside the tackle box (Rule 2-34) before kicking.”
and
“When in question whether the foul is running into or roughing, the foul
is roughing.”
Therefore the kicker had not regained his balance (duh – he was still in the air) so when the Nebraska player hits his foot the call has to be roughing (no referee judgment is allowed.
It is simply the rule.
by Indiana Blue on Nov 21, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
No it is not
From Article 16
Section 1: Roughing is a live-ball personal foul that endangers the kicker or holder.
Section 2: Running into the kicker or holder is a live-ball foul that occurs when the kicker or holder is displaced from his kicking or holding position but is not roughed (A.R. 9-1-16-II).
The only thing in the rulebook that differentiates between roughing and running into the kicker is whether the contact endangers the kicker. Hagerup wasn’t endangered on the play because the defender made very light contact with him. The ref, not being sure how much contact there was, called roughing the punter because, as noted, if the ref is unsure about the degree of contact they are supposed to call roughing the punter.
I appreciate
your honesty…and I love your humor!
They're 18 to 22...how perfect were you at that age?
The Power of Red begins with the Passion of Walk-Ons.
Sheesh...is English a second language in Michigan?
We quote this stuff over and over…even emphasize it…and still some of these Weasels miss it…
While that ended any chances Nebraska had to come back, the horrible officiating was not the reason why Nebraska lost this game. Michigan’s defense dominated the Huskers today, and it started up front.
Officials.
Yes, did the Michigan punter make the most out of miniscule contact…yes (they all do). Overall, I have seen worse officiating in the past and my heart goes out to my Husker friends that hoped this would be a horse race, as did I. But really? 14 minutes of possession? In a game of 3 – 7 points can officiating be an issue? Of course, but nonetheless it was the Wolverines day (and the Huskers will have theirs).
JDHusker: better luck next year…(though if you check out CFN’s scouting reports, guess who is no #1 for the 2012 class you may be even more depressed). WELCOME TO THE BIG HOUSE.
WOOO RECRUITING NUMBERS. (/end kneejerk sarcastic response)
Congrats on the win anyways. I highly recommend washing your team with soap and water and flooding them with vitamin C, so whatever virus Nebraska played with on Saturday doesn’t affect you against Michigan.
Play for the love of the game. A Cornhusker through feast or famine. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 21, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Or Ohio State.
GAH, I’M DROPPING THE BALL TOO.
Play for the love of the game. A Cornhusker through feast or famine. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 21, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't think it should have been a roughing call , but
the refs didn’t force those fumbles or drop those passes. The refs didn’t stop our line from blocking or our db’s from missing on interception opportunities. Embarrassing loss, but congrats Michigan. Good luck against the buckeyes
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