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Nebraska vs Michigan - Similarities Go Beyond Martinez, Robinson

Michigan vs Nebraska. Nebraska vs Michigan. It's now a yearly event after occurring only six times in the previous century plus of football. You'd think that these two teams would have met more often than that, given their similarities. 

Both are storied programs and have been throughout college football history (conveniently forgetting the WW II years at Nebraska). Michigan is the winningest program in college football history with 892 wins, while Nebraska sits at fourth with 845. Both have won multiple national titles, have had their share of legendary coaches and both have three Heisman Trophy winners.

The teams shared a national title in 1997, a title that both teams are sure they should have won outright. Both sides claim the other was gifted their share of the title, with Wolverines fans claiming Tom Osborne was granted a title by the coaches, and Husker fans (rightfully) claiming that the media gave Michigan a share of the title because they hadn't won one since 1948 and they were tired of Nebraska winning titles in the 90s.

Star-divide

Both have gone through rough times lately, in eerily similar ways. Nebraska fired a head coach that was an assistant to a legend, and replaced him with a guy that tried to destroy hallowed traditions. Michigan fired a head coach who was a former assistant to a legend and replaced him with a guy that tried to destroy hallowed traditions.

Both failed head coaches tried to change the culture of their schools in a desperate attempt to prove the worth of their offenses while hiring blithering idiots as defensive coordinators who ran their defenses into the ground.

Even the coaches that replaced the upsurpers are cut from the same cloth. Brady Hoke likes to point at things and yell. Bo Pelini likes to yell at things and point.

The similarities continue with the starting quarterbacks, Nebraska's Taylor Martinez and Michigan's Denard Robinson. Both are mobile quarterbacks, who've done the majority of their damage on the ground, setting numerous school records as first-year quarterbacks. Last season, Martinez and Robinson were two of only five FBS players to rush for more than 900 yards while throwing for more than 1,500. Both of their teams struggled as the quarterbacks suffered injuries towards the end of the 2010 season. If you want to get absurd, both quarterbacks even have the same amount of letters in their first and last names.

2011 has so far gone well for both quarterbacks. Both have had their good and bad games, Robinson struggled in a loss against Michigan State, completing only nine of 24 passes while Martinez threw multiple interceptions in a bad loss at Wisconsin. Both have lead their teams to 8-2 records. 

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As 2011 has progressed, both Nebraska and Michigan have sought to decrease reliance on their star quarterbacks, instead relying more heavily on the ground game favored by both head coaches. Neither team wants to suffer the season-ending swoon of last year, so the rushing yardage for both quarterbacks has dropped as their coaches try to keep them healthy for the duration. 

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The burden has been moved to each team's primary running back. This season, both offenses have featured a single running back - Fitzgerald Toussaint for Michigan, and Rex Burkhead for Nebraska.

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As further evidence of reliance on these tandems, one might look no further than the combined total rushing yardage for the quarterback-running backs pairs as they enter this game:

Robinson - 910 yards, Toussaint - 753 yards = 1,663 yards

Burkhead - 951 yards, Martinez - 712 yards = 1,663 yards

It should be no surprise, then, that both teams will enter this game with the same basic game plan. On offense, establish the run, then try to hurt the other team with play-action or screens. On defense, stop the run and force the other team to throw it. 

Teams don't get much more alike than this. It's as if Nebraska was meant to be in the Big Ten playing Michigan all along. 

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Both have gone through rough times lately, in eerily similar ways. Nebraska fired a head coach that was an assistant to a legend, and replaced him with a guy that tried to destroy hallowed traditions. Michigan fired a head coach who was a former assistant to a legend and replaced him with a guy that tried to destroy hallowed traditions.

Lloyd Carr retired after 2007 he was not fired.

by gunnersape on Nov 17, 2011 9:57 AM CST reply actions  

If I remember right

He “retired” as in the AD telling him: “Lloyd, this is your last year, which form of exit do you want the public to see?” Pretty strong evidence supporting that: After Schembechler, Michigan hired in house twice in Moeller and Carr. After Carr, however, Michigan elected to hire Rodriguez who not only wasn’t on the staff, but had no Michigan ties, did not share the old staff’s philosophies, and cleaned house and brought in his own people.

That’s a firing in all but name.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Nov 17, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Negitive

As a lifelong M fan I can tell you Lloyd was safe and was in no way on the hot seat. The AD at the time (Sailor Bill Martin) begged LC to stay and stated publicly he did not want him to step down. There were rumblings after 2005 that LC wanted to retire then and Bo told him to keep going.

Not trying to start a fight but Lloyd stepped down and was never forced, I promise.

Also, here’s to the new Rivalry.

by gunnersape on Nov 17, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Your are on target!

Carr was intelligent enough to leave on a winning note…I do recall a victory against a Tebow led Florida team. he was not forced out. Nebraska fans, lovable as most of them are, nonetheless are rather myopic at times when it come to their beloved Huskers (whom I cheer for as long as they are not playing the Wolverines), but then that likely stems from having one DIV I team in their state.

by Chip77 on Nov 18, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Be careful about over-generalizing.

Jon admits to making a mistake as well, so no need to get snippy.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 18, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

You do not remember right.

by GCS on Nov 17, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Outside of The Michigan Sphere of Influence I Think it Was Perceived Differently

I remember it as an ushering out the door as well due to an inability to beat Ohio, the embarrassing loss to Appalachian State, and the loss to Oregon making it the first time to lose the first two games in a season in 50 years.
Now, the reality is they went on to win the next 8 games and he kept his team from imploding, which was an amazing feat and a demonstration of his strength as a coach. But what everyone remembers is that horrible start, the team getting booed off the field (twice!) and all the calls for his head. Sure he retired on his own terms, but from outside Michigan it looked like he was helped. A lot.

"Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?"

by UltimaRatioRegum on Nov 17, 2011 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with this

but, unfortunately, I did get it wrong.

Ah well. I really don’t give a shit if Lloyd Carr was fired, forced to retire or did it on his own. The fact that we endured Bill Callahan while they endured Rich Rod should bring us a little closer together in the thought process.

I am surprised, though, that more of you Meechegan men haven’t commented on the " Husker fans (rightfully) claiming that the media gave Michigan a share of the title" line. Maybe I’m not as good a troll as I think I am. Or maybe you’re smart enough to understand that if you’re going to make the claim that Osborne was given a gift, the opposite position can be just as valid.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
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by Jon Johnston on Nov 17, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

The most deserving 1997 team is a contentious point, but not something that is as clearly wrong as your claims about Carr. I just MDWM’d it and moved on.

by GCS on Nov 17, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

"Three and Out"

In John U. Bacon’s recent book “Three and Out” about the Rich Rodriguez years at Michigan, it is painfully clear that Lloyd Carr was in no way forced out of his job. Athletic Director Bill Martin was COMPLETELY unprepared to conduct a coaching search and bumbled it so badly that after a few weeks, the president of the university had to step in and essentially push Martin to the sidelines of the process. Bacon makes the point that Carr was widely rumored to be considering retirement, yet Martin was genuinely taken by surprise and had not even taken initial steps regarding a potential successor.

by WolverHusker1013 on Nov 18, 2011 12:39 AM CST up reply actions  

sigh

I can’t believe i looked up all the other shit on this and got that wrong.

What a dumbass.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
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by Jon Johnston on Nov 18, 2011 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Bumbling coaching search. THAT'S OUR COMMON GROUND.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 18, 2011 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

hahaha

good point!

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
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by Jon Johnston on Nov 18, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

With the way he's been playing

I would rather have Taylor at QB any day of the week over D. Robinson,

by BIGRED J on Nov 17, 2011 11:08 AM CST reply actions  

QB

Both are equally inconsistent and frustrating for their fanbases.

by Chip77 on Nov 18, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I like Taylor.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 18, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Haven't the movies taught us that if you fight your alter ego, the battle will go on forever?

What’s the max number of overtimes in college, and can we extend this game long enough that they have to delay all other games to Sunday?

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 17, 2011 2:41 PM CST reply actions  

If so, the real question is who is evil and who is good?

Good always triumphs. Usually. Most of the time.

I’m not sure what the max OT’s there can be, but I think the most anyone’s had is 7.

Look me up on youtube sometime...if you're really bored.

by Billgrip on Nov 17, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll have to ask ESPN.

If we’re the evil, we can take solace in know there is a sequel next year, so we can win.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 17, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Co-championship

  Aside from that dribble about the “rightful” claim (ignoring the fact that Osborne was on his way out and the sentimental “retirement” favorite amoungst his peers), a great and truly fair and balanced article!! What a game it would have been, the #1 offense vs the #1 defense
   Kudos, from a “family divided”, kids are devoted NU grads and the wife bleeds Maize and Blue. Great site! this may prove to be as great a series as UM vs OSU in the future and makes for a lot of fun with our friends and colleagues, here in Omaha. 365 days of dining on crow or having bragging rights, what college football is all about!

by Chip77 on Nov 18, 2011 11:58 AM CST reply actions  

We were missing a Michigan fan bringing up the sentimental argument.

:)

Welcome! I believe there will be many exciting matchups between our teams in the future.

We should play for the right to claim 1997.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 18, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

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