Corn Flakes - Does the Nebraska - Penn State Game Go On?
Things look like they've calmed down at Penn State, they didn't burn the place to the ground, so it's fair to say we'll still be having a football game.
BTN will be playing the Penn State Board of Trustees Press Conference, repeating it until Nittany Lion interim coach Tom Bradley is announced at a press conference at 11:00 AM.
The absolute worst news of the morning is that there's a RUMOR that Jerry Sandusky used the Second Mile Foundation to pimp out kids to rich donors. This is a RUMOR, and honestly, is really hard to believe because it wants us to believe that the cover up extended to many more sick people than just Sandusky, and it's really hard for sick people to keep their sicknesses hidden. Or maybe I'm just praying that this stays a rumor because we really don't need things to get any worse than they really are.
Back to that football game thing. Do you guys think it should go on? Should Nebraska go to Penn State and play football on Saturday? I'd like to hear what you're thinking.
Joe Paterno Fired: By Shielding And Fearing Football, We Weaken It - SBNation.com
As one of the probably hundreds of thousands of people in this country who can claim to have their bills paid by the game of football, this angers me. As did Ohio State president E. Gordon Gee's "I hope [Jim Tressel] doesn't fire me" joke from this spring. As do the hundreds of other examples of university officials who fail to do what is right for the university they represent, simply because they are afraid of public outrage, afraid of losing their jobs because of the game of football. Football is only as strong as the rules -- both rules of the game and of human decency -- that oversee it, and when the checks and balances break down, reputations get sullied, and the game we think we are protecting takes a significant hit.
Interesting take on the situation from SB Nation's Bill C - JJ
The Joe won’t go on. Should the show?
Tom Shatel chimes in, wondering if the game should go on.
Penn State Students Clash With Police After Paterno Announcement
Just before midnight the police lost control of the crowd. Chanting, "Tip the van," they toppled the news vehicle and then brought down a nearby lamp post. When the police opened up with pepper spray, some in the crowd responded by hurling rocks, cans of soda and flares. They also tore down street signs, tipped over trash cans and newspaper vending boxes and shattered car windows.
I actually think last night went quite well. There are few reports of arrests, not all that much property damage considering the number of people involved, and very few reports of injuries. Amirite? - JJ
TV van tipped as rally for Paterno gets violent - College Football - Rivals.com
Police in riot gear dispersed about 2,000 Penn State students who took to the streets after the ouster of football coach Joe Paterno. Crowds toppled a television news van and at least one photographer was pelted with a rock.
They forgot the "and garbage". "Pelted with a rock and garbage" - that's how that usually goes. - JJ
The Penn State Riot is an Embarrassment to College Students Everywhere
The fact that thousands of Penn State students have found it not only acceptable, but necessary, to march on their campus in order to shout for the retainment of Joe Paterno as head football coach and flip over media vans, all while letting everyone possible know that "[they] are Penn State," is truly embarrassing.
Then again, maybe I'm wrong. - JJ
Bill Plaschke: This should be the end of Paterno State
Paterno was allowed to play God, and so his longtime assistant coach Jerry Sandusky was allowed to do whatever he wanted, wherever he wanted, even if it included alleged sexual abuse of eight boys over a 15-year period.
Just the Stats: Nebraska at Penn State - Black Shoe Diaries
Statistical breakdown of Penn State and Nebraska, previewing the teams' Big Ten game Saturday in Beaver Stadium.
OMG - Something about football!!!!!
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The game will be played...
unless a riot that rivals the 1992 L.A. riots erupts in Happy Valley today. And even then, I’d place money on the game being played in an empty stadium over an outright forfeit.
I said it yesterday and will repeat...
To those going to the game, be careful. I sent an email to my friends who are going and you all should too, reminding them of who we are and to let PSU handle PSU’s issues. I have no doubt our fans will continue the legacy of being the classy, respectful individuals they are, but I just know the history of PSU fans. I wonder if Dr. Tom will send out a memo to the players, students, and fans today or tomorrow.
1000 miles of separation...
will go a long way this weekend. Should mean that the Nebraska fans going there are older and hopefully wiser, and won’t be there adding more gasoline to this fire.
You'd be surpsrised how many displaced Nebraskans live in PA
More than people think. A lot of young ones too.
Game gets played
but to all who are traveling to the game, be careful, look out for each other and stay safe.
And if you go,
be prepared to go through a security screening at the stadium that makes airport security look like a game of pat-a-cake with a six-month-old.
And whatever you do, focus on the football.
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think I could send an entire roster of Nebraska players into that environment
I would say they should close down the student section, seeing as how their students are actling like a bunch of opportunistic, drunken idiots, but they would probably just set fire to the stadium.
Cob of the Week – PSU students. (so far) Way to completely overshadddow and disrespect the victims of that serial rapist by your actions.
Isn't the entire stadium
nothing but a student section?
It's Van Halen, not Van Hagar.
by BryanNbugaha on Nov 10, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
If the game goes on (and I think it will) I hope PSU has large security force there.
Don’t want to see things get ugly, but they need a large security presence to keep things under control – especially in the student section.
Expect the refs to call a VERY tight game. Don’t expect poor sportsmanship in this game, but bang-bang calls that go against PSU could set the fans off.
I'm assuming the campus police will have more notice this time.
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I think it gets played
But I wouldn’t be surprised if PSU fans get crazy enough to make people think maybe the game shouldn’t have been played. At this point I don’t know that they really care about the outcome, I think they’d rather go just to chant “We want Joe” and “Down with BOT” or whatever else they can to show their anger.
Look me up on youtube sometime...if you're really bored.
They just want to act like a bunch of assholes, that's all they want.
Watching these students talk to these reporters is sickening. This entire situation was created by people [not doing the right thing], and now these students are following suit.
Play the game
I’ve said repeatedly that PSU should commit to donating the revenue from the game to charity.
Their seniors deserve to play this weekend. They’re still innocent in all of this.
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude
by Seer on Nov 10, 2011 9:32 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
From a PSU Alum...
…who will be traveling up for the game (that I’ve been planning all season to attend), I want to say thank you in advance to those of you who make the trip. I’ve heard nothing but good things about the Husker fanbase and have great memories of tailgating with a few of its members back in 2002.
I think that you’ll find that many people at the game this weekend will be in the same camp as me….alums or others who have a longtime connection with the school who are dazed and distraught, and just want to be among others who have some idea of what we’re going through. The PSU fanbase is not made up entirely of students behaving like idiots, and it makes me very sad to think that a visiting fan would ever think they have a reason to feel unsafe.
Think of the victims, and welcome to Happy Valley. Wish it was under better circumstances, but we’ll be glad to have you nonetheless.
Sorry I'm dwelling on this, but it just pisses me the f*** off.
Victim 1 – 2005-2006 Molested over 20 times, including oral sex.
Victim 2 – 2002 Grad assist hears “rhythmic slapping noise” and witnessed, what looked to be, a 10 year old boy with his hands up against the wall and coach Sandusky having intercourse with him. McQueary tells Jo"Pa", and Sandusky’s keys to the locker room are taken away (admittance of guilt) (Police and child welfare agencies NEVER notified)
Victim 3 - 7or8th grader who claims Sandusky repeatedly fondled his genitals.
That is a sample – THE LIST GOES ON!
Now, after the entire chain-of-command, including Paterno, turns a blind eye to victim #2, this is PSU’s student body’s reaction…




Something is inherently wrong with our society and it’s priorities.
inherently wrong with our society and priorities....
I’m not arguing against that statement, but has it ever been any different? Ever, in the history of mankind?
You can go back through college football history and find evidence of riots far worse (and I don’t mean the 80s, but back to the start of the 20th century). People have always taken this stuff too seriously. We have always been fucked up creatures. Always.
And like I said, given the small amount of damage and injuries – this really wasn’t a riot.
Now, the pedophile yeah, this is about as it gets.
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by Jon Johnston on Nov 10, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
I guess I give us too much credit as a civilized society
I figure that after an unknown list of young boys were raped by a well-respected PSU football coach, followed by a cover up, that rioting would be the last thing on these student’s minds – regardless of what collateral damaged followed.
As a PSU fan and alum, please do not let 2,000 students represent the 40,000 or so current students.
by Ben16 on Nov 10, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly!!
I was just typing that but you beat me! lol
It's Van Halen, not Van Hagar.
by BryanNbugaha on Nov 10, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Osborne has already stated
that moving the game isn’t feasible.
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by Jon Johnston on Nov 10, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
MOVE THE GAME TO LINCOLN
At the end of the day, it’s not about wins and losses, it’s about humanity and doing the right thing. Now it’s time to do the right thing and postpone the game…or…..
Move it to Lincoln.
Now is NOT the time to be playing football in State College, PA.
It's Van Halen, not Van Hagar.
by BryanNbugaha on Nov 10, 2011 10:36 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/ncaa/11/10/penn-state-nebraska-safety-concerns.ap/
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Nebraska regent has safety concerns
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by Jon Johnston on Nov 10, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
I said this on another thread,
but I’ll say it again. I would expect to see police about every ten feet in and around Beaver Stadium on Saturday. Shoot, I wouldn’t be surprised if they called in the national guard to help keep the peace, since they may not have enough manpower in State College.
The university knows that if they don’t and something happens, they will get the pants sued off of them.
My thoughts as well.
The moment you start needing the National Guard to start babysitting is the moment you need to seriously consider alternatives, be it closing the stadium to fans or moving the game out of hostile territory, perhaps playing it Sunday afternoon. Is Pittsburgh at home this weekend?
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by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe the Nat guard is an extreme example
I just meant that they would probably bring in additional security. I don’t know where it would come from.
I would say moving the game to Pitt would be much more likely than Lincoln.
Would be a class act..
To move the game to Lincoln or Philly. Give the seniors the respect they deserve.
It's Van Halen, not Van Hagar.
by BryanNbugaha on Nov 10, 2011 10:50 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
This would probably be incredibly far-fetched to believe
But what if Nebraska invited the players and their families to Lincoln, to honor them on their senior day? Penn State could play in their home colors, and the names of the seniors and their families could be honored before the game.
I know this is highly unlikely, but it would be an extraordinary show of respect and accommodation on Nebraska’s part, considering that the game is going to happen. Just sayin’.
Would not suprise me,,
if this game is cancelled!
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Smoke em' if you got em'!!!
Low and Slow!!!
They can't really move the game to Lincoln.
If there was just a little more time, maybe moving it to Pittsburgh or something like that would be better. I think that they need to be as respectful as possible to the Seniors who have played their hearts out for Penn State. This is super sad all around right now. I hope things calm down a little today so people can think a little more clearly.
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I'm most worried about opinionated Husker fans sticking their nose in this.
I’m guessing that Penn State fans are rational enough to know that Nebraska has nothing to do with this, and so violence toward the opposing team would be kind of silly. I’m most worried about Husker fans getting into arguments with Penn State fans over this issue which may ultimately end up getting violent. Everyone going to the game, practice this with me
“Your coach was fired, you say? Sorry, we’re new to the conference, and the radio reception back home in Nebraska is pretty shoddy, so I don’t know anything about that.”
by Trey Hillman's Chin on Nov 10, 2011 11:48 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
If a Nebraska fan brings that up, they're inviting anything that comes back.
This may range from comments about some of Osborne’s indiscretions to an ass-kicking.
A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Why should Nebraska be put into this?? This it total BS the ncaa should do some thing about this game not just give lip service to it and how can they let McCurry any where near the game after not stopping what he saw what a sick sick man he is to watch and let this happen and do nothing…..
You're sensationalizing.
There is no indication that the atmosphere on Saturday will be that hostile to Nebraska. (Contrary to ESPN, CNN, or the other “media” outlets’ beliefs.)
If such an indication arises, I trust that Nebraska’s administrators are savvy enough to call the whole thing off if nothing is done to mediate the hostility.
We should expect that right now, nothing has changed.
Don’t be stupid and go provoking the other fan base, and you should be fine. If you do, well, I hope you’re really lucky about not getting the snot beat out of you.
A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
(My you's are an ambiguous reference to Nebraska fans, not you ("sfsdhusker") in particular.)
A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Why wouldn't it be hostile?
That place has a reputation for being hostile anyway, but now…good lord.
Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
Well, I kind of meant that there is no indication it would be significantly more hostile than normal, at least to visiting fans.
I’m guessing Penn State has the same proportion of rational to idiot fans, and maybe that proportion increases ever so slightly this weekend.
If anything, ESPN/CNN/etc will play it up because, well, they need eyes on TV.
I don’t expect anywhere near the pandemonium you all seem to be suggesting.
A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
Come On Salt
Look at the videos, the photos. There is more than enough indication that the environment will be significantly more hostile than normal. Those fans are all fired up emotionally, and their tendency normally is to be hostile – can’t imagine what they’ll be like all charged up and looking for a reason to vent, especially with a national TV audience to play to.
"Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?"
by UltimaRatioRegum on Nov 10, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
I have to agree with Salt on this.
After 2 1/2 days to calm down, I don’t see anything close to a repeat of what happened last night flaring up on Saturday. Penn State knows a nation will be watching to see if they’ve finally figured out what really matters…those young boys.
If they decide to vent their frustrations on our fans, players or coaches, they know it will be yet another stain on their reputation, one they can ill-afford.
Cooler, and hopefully kinder, heads will prevail.
They're 18 to 22...how perfect were you at that age?
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by redvalley on Nov 10, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And somehow
McQueary is still on the coaching staff and will be at the game. Unbelievable.
Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
Seriously
If you want to AVOID any sort of reaction, why would you allow him to be there?
by GBR918 on Nov 10, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+ 1
"Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?"
by UltimaRatioRegum on Nov 10, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
Another unconfirmed rumor....on how Sandusky left the program
Jerry Sandusky was told that he had to retire in exchange for a cover-up. If you look at the timeline, that makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?
All the more reason to clean house and rebuild.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/10/penn-state-scandal-rumors-sandusky-pimping_n_1086099.html
Garbage
This is pretty garbage reporting. Who knows if there is any shred of truth to it? Some guy made a speculation on a random radio show, and they report this as news? That’s pretty poor journalism by Huffington post, if you call what they do journalism.
Dude, They Quoted Two Named Sources
That is the gold standard for journalism today; usually it’s “some anonymous source”. That kind of thin corroboration is still light years ahead of the ‘opinion as fact’ entertainment you get on that “fair and balanced” tin horn network.
"Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?"
by UltimaRatioRegum on Nov 10, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I assumed Ultima was being sarcastic
Clearly some random radio jock admittedly putting forth speculation couldn’t be considered even a remotely reliable source.
Statement from Tom Osborne - It's On
"I am saddened to learn of the recent events at Penn State and we will continue to monitor the developments on their campus. We will hold the alleged victims and all those involved in our thoughts and prayers.
"We have had a number of inquiries from fans regarding the circumstances at Penn State and the conditions they might expect in attending the game. UNL Chief of Police Owen Yardley is in touch with the Penn State police department and we have talked with interim Penn State Athletic Director Mark Sherburne. We have visited with Penn State security and we understand they are enhancing their security efforts for Saturday’s game and are taking extra precautions to ensure that all players, coaches and fans are treated in a respectful way. We also appreciate that there is a student-led effort at Penn State to respectfully welcome Nebraska fans to Beaver Stadium and into the Big Ten Conference. We know that our fans will reciprocate and display good sportsmanship toward Penn State’s fans and players."
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No surprises here.
A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Well, since it appears the game will go on...
How in the heck does Nebraska think it’s going to contain Silas Redd? They haven’t contained a solid running back all year.
That question’s counterpart, how in the heck does Nebraska plan to move the ball on PSU’s front line?
Controversy or not, these teams don’t match up will for Nebraska.
We are going to have great difficulty scoring on that tough Penn St defense.
And with how our D is playing right now….its going to be in interesting game.
you know
the last time Penn State had a 200-yard rushing game was Larry Johnson in 2002 against Michigan State
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by Jon Johnston on Nov 10, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Let's hope that streak doesn't end on Saturday...
Please, Nebraska. Channel your Michigan State game, not last weeks or Wisconsin’s…
A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
This game will be so
Surreal. There is so much going on I just hope the players will be cival
by huskermic on Nov 10, 2011 2:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
From a Penn State student himself....
i like to check out the opponent’s game threads to see injuries and how people are reacting for the game. This game will be great and it is being clouded over this terrible scandal. Most students understand why everyone is getting fired, victims come first, etc. Our anger is about not letting our 61 yr coach finish the season and why Mike Mcqueary and Tim Curley are still employed with the university. I WAS IN THE RIOT AND MOST OF US STUDENTS WERE PEACEFUL, WHILE A FEW OTHERS JUST WANTED TO SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY. ESPN failed to say this and made all of the students look like savages… Saturday is gonna be crazy, but Nebraska fans that are going to the game have to understand we are not vicious people and we treat our opponents with dignity, which was taught to us by the great Joe Paterno himself. Good luck and lets hope for a good game.
Well, ESPN did find some civil students, tried to provoke a response, failed and went back to gawking at turned-over vans.
A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
Yessss.
A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.
by Salt Creek and Stadium on Nov 10, 2011 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Should the game be played in Lincoln
Part of me say yes the game should be moved to Lincoln, party of me says another location like maybe Pitt, of Steelers stadium but in the long run why punish the players when none of them played during the sandusky time or had anything remotely to do with this. Its a horrible thing that went on the Jo Pa was fired ( the correct thing to do, should of been done sooner), this all should of stoped back in 98 but it didnt and hell is waiting for those who did wrong in this. The students are a bunch of idiots and i dont think they should be allowed in cause of the way they bluntly forgot to remember the victims and chose football over humanity. But that all being said play the game huskers play it hard and beat the ever living shit out of em, for our sake, not to prove a point but to just show its football and we are the better team.
PSU fan
I didn’t go to PSU but grew up 30 miles from State College and have been to many games and I adored Paterno and have always supported the teams at PSU. I am devastated, ashamed, and disgusted by what has happened. I feel like a knife has been driven into my gut. All I can say is that I wish that the rest of the nation could read the classy, balanced comments I’ve read here on Corn Nation. Thank you for not painting the 99.9999% of Pennsylvanians, PSU students(and players) (who come from all over the country and many nations) as being horrible people. Most of us now know that this systemic problem (of which Paterno was a part of) needs to be rooted out and destroyed forever. On behalf of the State of Pennyslvania, thank you for your graciousness and fairness.

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