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Hey all, some nice mid week links for you, including game experience reports. Turns out drunken football fans can be unruly. Who knew? Not the cats that's for sure.

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Extended Herron, Posey suspensions another blow to Ohio State, if it has any air left to knock out - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports

The return of Ohio State tailback Daniel Herron and receiver DeVier Posey from their start-of-the-season NCAA suspensions could be delayed by at least one more game barring a change of heart by the NCAA, sources told The Dispatch this morning.

At this point I'll take any advantage Nebraska can get.

Life in the Red's Blog | Heard's status

Bo Pelini said on Tuesday's Big Ten conference call that freshman running back Braylon Heard is questionable for Saturday's game with Ohio State. Heard has an infection in his leg, and has swelling that must go down before he's able to return, Pelini said. Heard did not travel to Wisconsin.

This does not sound good. -JL

GAME DAY IN WISCONSIN

Huskers DT damages property in airport - Big Ten Blog - ESPN

Nebraska DT Chase Rome reportedly was cited for damaging a paper towel dispenser at the Dane County Regional Airport shortly before the Huskers boarded their flight back to Lincoln.

Reasons why he was pissed? Maybe it wouldn't give him a towel?  Or maybe he heard about what happened below, and wasn't about to leave the state without some vengeance? -JL

Huskers battered, bruised, and beaten…fans, too | isportsweb

As we headed downtown Friday, it was a rude awakening for Nebraska fans. The scene was less-than-hospitable. Not to mention, they had a few choice words for nearly everyone representing the Cornhusker state.

Definitely a different experience than I did. Wisconsin fans gave me hell sometimes, but I guess I didn't expect anything different. Most of the time I gave it right back. I was not physically attacked, however, and that's one detail in this article that's pretty disappointing. - JJ

Benjamin J. Coleman: Disrespectful fans a shock to visitors

While the Badger fans weren't the worst I've seen, I was amazed by the volume of middle fingers, expletives on T-shirts, threats of violence and shouts of disdain.

OMG! Not the dreaded Shouts of Disdain!!!!!! -JJ

Michael Foy: Some fans spoiled Nebraska's welcome

In a brief walk down Breese Terrace, we witnessed students at three separate house parties pointing en masse and yelling obscenities at Nebraska fans, including an elderly couple who likely had never been subject to such a thing.

Pointing en masse - heh. - JJ

Oh the horror -JL

36 arrested at Wisconsin-Nebraska game

Police issued 40 citations Saturday, including 30 to UW students. The 36 arrests included 26 students. Some of those arrested received multiple citations. Seventy-seven people were ejected from the game, 43 of them students.

Nothing really shocking here. Drunk students in trouble many ejected. - JJ

You probably don't want to look at the links after the jump, they are kinda depressing. Maybe you should just google up yourself some kittens to look at?

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Big Ten power rankings: Week 6 - Big Ten Blog - ESPN

3. Nebraska (4-1, 0-1): We're keeping the Huskers here for now, but we need to see a much better performance this week against Ohio State. Coach Bo Pelini said he was embarrassed by his team's defensive performance in Madison. While Wisconsin makes a lot of defenses look bad, there's something wrong with a Blackshirts unit that entered the season with such promise. Nebraska also needs to stick to its run-based offense as Martinez still can't avoid momentum-killing mistakes.

Look at the Big 12 and tell me what our record would be, no wait don't... -JL

McKewon: Finding fix for ailing defense Bo's No. 1 priority - Omaha.com

NU's linebackers either chased too hard to the ball, or got stoned at the line of scrimmage. The lanky defensive line is stuck in a really tough two-gap scheme without the proper backing behind them. The safeties are vulnerable to the deep pass. The pick-a-corner opposite Alfzono Dennard can't lock down his side without several more games — perhaps years — of experience. Worse — opposing offensive coordinators appear to have a blueprint that works on the Pelini defense. Soften up the middle. Throw over the top. Move the pocket. Wait until one member of NU's intricate scheme cheats his assignment — then exploit the error.

Oh look more good news. -JL

The Independent > Archives > Sports > Huskers Hq > Husker defense stumbles in loss to Badgers

Who knows what changes will be made on the defense this week. Last week, on Monday before the Wyoming game, Cooper had no idea he’d be starting at cornerback opposite of Alfonzo Dennard. He didn’t even know he’d be playing cornerback. He was a safety in high school in Maywood, Ill., and all through his redshirt season. The Husker coaches told him about the move on that Monday. "It was a shock," Cooper said. "It kind of caught me off guard, but I had a week to prepare, go out there and get my first start." But that’s just a typical Monday for the Husker players. "Monday, pretty much everybody is clueless," Cooper said. "Every week the game plan changes. Sometimes positions change."

I don't think I like the idea of everyone being clueless on Mondays... -JL

Pelini staying the course with Blackshirts - Big Ten Blog - ESPN

What's going on with the Blackshirts? "Youth, maturity," Pelini said Monday. "We had a number of guys we had to replace. It is one things to do it in practice and another when the bullets are flying. You have to do it. At the end of the day, we were in position [at Wisconsin], we just didn't make a play.

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Shouts of disdain

That needs to become a meme around here.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 4, 2011 4:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Win

for both

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by JLew on Oct 4, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

EXCELLENT!

Go Big Red Nebraska!
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by Jon Johnston on Oct 4, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

welcome

to the extent of my cleverness….

by JimmytheRed on Oct 5, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

So Wisconsin is our new Colorado....great

For some reason I’m surprised, although I’m not sure why. The character of the UW student body was on full display last spring when they practically burned down their own capital over a political issue that did not involve them.

Students will be students (ours does things I don’t like, but for comparison, those things include: “home of the Huskers” at the end of the SSB, about 25% of the students booing Washington this year, and random cursing when things went bad).

I realize that the adult Badger fans (mostly) were better behaved, but the failure of the university to reign in its clearly out of control students is a damning reflection of the culture of that university and the culture of Madison as well. This is a school that is not used to winning and has not learned how to win with class. Sadly, this will probably be the high point for our treatment by them. Just wait until we start beating them…

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Oct 4, 2011 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Wiscolorado

If shouting obscenities is a tradition, there must of been long standing periods of time where boredom was rampant. And boredom usually equates losing in sports atmospheres.

Husker Nation has seen worse. No matter how hard they try, it will never be as bad as Boulder. Treating guests like trash was an art form there.

by BledRed on Oct 4, 2011 5:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Actually

it was explained to us that most of the stuff they do in the stadium was created when they were awful, and needed reasons to keep everyone around for the second half.

Part of the problem is – the focus people have placed on the “eat shit, fuck you” chant takes away from everything else that they do and a lot of it is pretty fun. The Jump Around, the wave stuff – all of that is choreographed and very well done.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 4, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uhh
“Monday, pretty much everybody is clueless,” Cooper said. “Every week the game plan changes. Sometimes positions change.”

That doesn’t sound good. What do Nebby fans think when they see players coming out and saying things like this?

At the end of the day, we were in position [at Wisconsin], we just didn’t make a play

-Pelini
Another Question for Neb fans: Is this the coach covering his own ass?

As a Hawk fan, I’m not trying to dance on a grave or anything like that, just curious what your reactions are to these two statements.

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Oct 4, 2011 7:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Concerning statements but not worrying yet.

If we are railroaded by Ohio State and Minnesota, then we’ll talk.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Oct 4, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get ya

Basically, not a huge issue now because people say things after a loss, but if you keep losing, that’s when the fingers are going to start getting pointed?

Skol!

by DM_Purp on Oct 4, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

We don't want to repeat the Solich to Callahan affair.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Oct 4, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I do not want a regime change anytime soon. Let’s stay the course, see how the year progresses and then ask for heads.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 4, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, its probably a bit of a cya move by Cooper as well

Considering he was burned quite repeatedly.

I will give Pelini a break on this one. Nothing is working right now, nobody is stepping up. If he is trying every combination and permutation our there, hard to blame him.

But, yeah, this is a mess right now.

Google's homepage celebrates too much shit.

by meatybob on Oct 4, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mizzou has entered into an open relationship with the Big 12.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Oct 4, 2011 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Yea I see that they are eyeing the door

I do not blame them if the SEC is willing to take them then they would possibly get more money and get more national exposure.

by BledRed on Oct 4, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

They can fit that culture as well

Missouri is that funny border that could go both ways. I don’t think they’ll be much more than a Kentucky-style school over there, but hey, more power to them.

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by KennardHusker on Oct 5, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pelini needs to take his own advice.

I’m sorry, but Bo’s repeated insistence on blaming the players is not only getting old, but it goes against his own “Don’t point the finger, point the thumb” mentality.

Sure, the players need experience and some work. But come on….you can’t keep blaming the defense that was on the f**king field for 85% of the game and probably gassed. How about taking some ownership as a coaching staff (Beck and crew). and work on developing a system that the guys can at least count on week to week.

"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game;
In the deed the glory"

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by Brian Speers on Oct 4, 2011 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

You think Madison is bad?

You think Madison is bad? Wait until you go to Columbus. Their behavior shocked and outraged Texas fans.

by WolverHusker1013 on Oct 4, 2011 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Columbus is very bad.

Only place where you literally watch your back, and you can be physically threatened for simply cheering your own team. They’ve ritualized winning to the point where if you cheer for another team, you’re interrupting Vespers, or something.

Of course, I have no idea what one Big Ten school’s reception of out-of-towners is, but we’ll get a look firsthand November 25.

In general, I disagree with meatybob, below, because I find most Big Ten venues to be light-hearted, friendly places, albeit with the usual mob of drunken adolescents who sometimes need a wide berth. The only place I’ve ever been concerned is OSU, where seemingly respectable parents sitting next to their children threatened me for cheering controversial events such as a visitors first down.

We play tackle football.

by Bellanca on Oct 5, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

big ten fans

have had reputations for boorish behavior since time immemorial. I am guessing it’s primarily because they are massive schools with massive student populations, so Wisconsin’s full stadium at 85K is going to be comprised of more students that run the entire gambit of lucidity versus Nebraska’s.

I am considerably more concerned when Nebraska actually wins some of these road games. Adding “pissed off” to the mix isn’t going to help.

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by meatybob on Oct 4, 2011 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Man up husker nation

First of all, anything that says “eat shit” or “fuck you” on a shirt or in the student section is between students, and has nothing to do with your fans.

I was inside the stadium, and the 2 Husker fans in the section (not nearly the amount of Husker fans inside the stadium as expected) didn’t participate in any traditions. Jump around is for everyone, singing build me up buttercup is for anyone, don’t just stand/sit there and pout.

Going off of that point, I heard that in many of the biggest Badger bars, Husker fans went in and chanted the seemingly only chant you have over and over. Think about it, you are going into a BADGER bar, people don’t want to watch the game with you, especially when most Husker fans I encountered were extremely critical of B1G football and a few even dared to suggest that they would rather be in Austin, Norman.

This is a direct quote from ESPN podcaster/writer Ivan Maisel:

“My burning question, its not really burning except I’ve been thinking about it ever since I left Madison very late Saturday, early morning Sunday is there a better football weekend than Madison, Wisconsin? I would be hard pressed to find a fan base that has a better time and experience in the stadium that is better, than what you find at Camp Ra…ndall. A gritty, grubby tradition laden old stadium like Camp Randall, a campus town institution and meal better than state street brats… and there was such a great college football atmosphere. And then you get into the stadium and its such a grand looking place and the fans are excited, and then you get into the second half with Jump Around and then they sing to Build Me Up Buttercup, they sing to Sweet Caroline, then they have the 5th Quarter after beating the tar out of Nebraska, it was everything I like about college football and I found it this week in Madison.”

Too bad you couldn’t enjoy it because you were too sour after getting absolutely pummeled. Try not to take it personally.

by BuckyBadger on Oct 5, 2011 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

If you actually read things here instead of trolling, you'd notice in general we were very complimentary of Madison.

Lighten up, Francis.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Oct 5, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

general message

Some of those posts above were very critical, just a general statement

by BuckyBadger on Oct 5, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think this thread, in general, was a denouncement of poor fan treatment.

Unfortunately the Big Ten will have to get used to that. We tend to over-react a little bit.

Every fan base has their nutcases. We have ours.

And considering the events of Saturday night, we have some misdirected anger to spread against random stuff like five or six reports of bad Badger fans.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Oct 5, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

/shouting at you with disdain!

I am not sure that Husker fans took it personally. I wasn’t there. My guess is that they just aren’t used to such a vulgar chant. It just doesn’t happen at NU (at least with the entire student section). I would venture to guess that most Husker fans weren’t in the mood to jump around or sing because we were witnessing an utter dismantling of our team. The expectations were high considering the confidence our coach was exuding and we had been hearing all pre-season that the D was “ahead of schedule”. I don’t think there are many Husker fans that are too upset with the atmosphere presented at Camp Randal. I believe many just weren’t in the mood. I don’t think many were expecting us to necessarily win, but to give better opposition. Sadly it didn’t happen, but I hope that our kids turn it around and make the season a success.

by JimmytheRed on Oct 5, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN writer enjoying a Nebraska beat down.....this can't be!
then they have the 5th Quarter after beating the tar out of Nebraska, it was everything I like about college football

Spoken like a true ESPN analyst.

SEC...great conference or the greatest conference?

by BledRed on Oct 6, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another funny point

For whoever drank in either memorial or south union, Husker fans got discounts that even some badger alumni don’t get (unless they have a union membership). How about that?

by BuckyBadger on Oct 5, 2011 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

what

is going on with you?

at this point, you are just like the Nebraska fans you’re complaining about. You lack sense of humor. You are thin-skinned.

When you come to Lincoln next year, I hope you experience shouts of disdain.

As in “when was the last time you washed your badger?”

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 5, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I went to the Union - we didn't get a discount. Tier 3 beer was still $12 a pitcher.

Same price I get as a student.

A Cornhusker through feast or famine. Get up, dust yourself off and run the ball. That's the Nebraska way.

by Salt Creek and Stadium on Oct 5, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was there downtown on friday night on saturday night

just to visit friends, and it just so happened that it was the weekend of the big game. Keep in mind im from Minnesota, so i have no close affiliation with either team. I never saw anyone pick fights or even a single fight, and I was down on state street (where all the hostility would happen if there was some) and everyone that i encountered, were really nice people. Sure, you’re going to have hardcore drunks fans of both teams, but i myself didn’t see it at all. I may have been a little drunk, but I typically don’t blackout easily. But I can say this, whatever this guy was writing about, was false, just from what I saw. My little 2 cents, good luck on the year, and try not to beat the Gophers too badly :)

by hickenizgriz on Oct 5, 2011 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

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