A Texas Writer "Lectures" Us
I think this is the part where Husker Nation says "Talk to the hand..."
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Jack Mitchell of KLIN-1400 AM in Lincoln offers this rebuttal...
THIS ISN’T ABOUT YOU, TEXAS! Sure, having you goat-ropers around has made things difficult and sometimes unbearable to deal with, but when an offer like the Big Ten comes around, YOU TAKE IT! Athletically, academically, culturally. It all fits for Nebraska. Even better than if we were just still in the old Big 8. This move will impact the entire university for generations – and very, very, very likely in a positive way. Nebraska doesn’t have the population and the big money. It needs every advantage it can get both on the field and in the classroom to be a top-flight school. Big Ten money, Big Ten power, Big Ten academics and Big Ten prestige give Nebraska that advantage. The Big 12 can’t do that. Even riding your esteemed coattails.
http://jackandjohn.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/dear-children-of-the-horn/
Ya know...
I had a well thought out retort to this guy’s post, but he is only looking for web traffic and I’m not going to give him the satisfaction. I’ll just roll my eyes and let things play out as they will this season.
PS: Oklahoma is 5-4 against Texas this decade with more conference championships and more Heisman winners, so I guess him comparing us to Oklahoma isn’t all bad.
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jul 24, 2010 10:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I Agree
The best bet for Husker fans is to give this guy and any other Longhorn talking junk the “talk to the hand” treatment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvk7faxsxkQ
But you know damn well that guy’s posting is on the bulletin board in the Husker locker room.
"No 00:01 Chances!!"
Trollbait.
Not even worth another web hit, though I’m sure Husker fans will hit it often and offer countless rebuttals.
If I cared one whit about what Texas thinks of us at this point, it would bother me. As it is, let’s just beat their asses on 16 October and tell them not to let the door hit them on the way out. Good riddance as far as I’m concerned.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
As it is, let’s just beat their asses on 16 October and tell them not to let the door hit them on the way out. Good riddance as far as I’m concerned.
You realize it’s ya’ll who’s leaving right?
by vy til i die on Jul 26, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Point taken.
I was envisioning the Texas bus/plane leaving Lincoln, but I see what you mean.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
I Can't Imagine...
The temerity it takes to write an article like this is almost more than I can imagine. I know absolutely nothing about this writer, but I can’t imagine something like this being written to any one of the B-10 schools, not if they expect any of their fans to follow them into enemy territory. Being doused with pi*s is the least of the unpleasant things that would happen to them. I eventually lost count of the many ways this article ridicules everything Husker. It pi*sed me off, and I’m not even a NU fan. Man, this guy slams Osborne, the coach, the fans – everyone. He even slams the state and your culture. Quite, at least for me, an amazing article. And the fans at Memorial render an applause after a loss? Even after something like this is written? Oh, well….love is a wonderful thing. It’s for damn sure though, texas won’t get any love from the current eleven schools.
If It Chaps Off A Non-Husker Fan, Then You Know It Was A Bad Take
Check this out. Even a writer form The Bleacher Report laid the smack down on this guy.
So much for my “talk to the hand” approach; Dirk Chatelain stirs the pot some more in this morning’s Omaha World-Herald.
"No 00:01 Chances!!"
I like the World-Herald article
I think it’s the good kind of pot-stirring. I have to disagree with the 90-year-old woman that “we” put that second back on the clock, and that it makes us bad people. But otherwise, I think it captured all the good reasons for fans to be excited about October 16.
Nebraska won the 2009 Big 12 Championship
The last play by Texas before the FG was intentional grounding. This fact needs beat into the heads of Texas fans.
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
Oh. My. God.
You know, I think the article was wrong-headed and pointless. However, insofar as he knocks “fans” like you, he’s dead on. Revisionist history is the realm of crybabies, not world-class fans.
The truth is the realm of the correct
If you choose to equate correctness with being a crybaby, and the set of all crybabies being outside the set of world-class fans, that’s fine. I’m still correct.
Idle talk and hollow promises; cheating Judases; doubting Thomases
Are they serious?
Are they serious? Texas actually put that up?
I had heard about it but had never seen a picture of it. That takes a lot of (something I am not going to write here) to do that. And it was the whole University that put that up.
Just who is more delusional? Nebraska with multiple testimonials from all over CFB, coaches, fans, sports writers in the past 4 decades for being the “greatest fans” in CFB or Texas for putting this up at their university?
So Texas has REALLY only won 3 Big 12 championships in the history of the Big 12 and they have this kind of swagger. To hear them brag about themselves you would think that Texas had won 12 out of the last 14 Big 12 championship games. Yep, Texas is a huge state and they have an EGO to match it.
Just who is more delusional? Nebraska with multiple testimonials from all over CFB, coaches, fans, sports writers in the past 4 decades for being the "greatest fans" in CFB or Texas for putting this up at their university?
You lost me, buddy. What does what the athletic department did have to do with the fans?
You’re right, for the most part, about Nebraska having great fans. If you’ll notice above, I called out one person, and only one person. Why? Because he’s still butthurt and in denial. If I’m delusional, what’s he?
Oh forgive me
The fans did not put that sign up, the University did.
You want to see if you can reconcile your two posts? Or do you prefer the inconsistency?
My comment was to the picture
not to the original comment about the “intentional grounding”. When I saw that comment my thoughts were going “Huh? Where is that coming from?”. No I do not agree the comment.
As far as my needing to make up my mind, yes the University put up the sign however Nebraska has received many compliments on the conduct of it’s fans at the games for decades, long before the sign was put up.
correction
I do not agree WITH the comment. My internal grammar check is not working very well. There was some big goofs in my other comment too.
DAMN!!
I knew I couldn’t play the “talk to the hand” card for long. You had to figure it wouldn’t be too long before some Longhorn came in here and let loose with a brain fart.
Revisionist history is the realm of crybabies, not world-class fans.
I just have to remind myself of Dennis Dodd’s quote: " [Osborne’s] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we’ll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It’s on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing — it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it."
Sorry, Screwface, I stole your sig again.
"No 00:01 Chances!!"
What's relevant about that Dodd quote?
I accused one person—the one who said “Nebraska won the 2009 Big 12 Championship”—of being a crybaby. If you want to defend him, go ahead. But if you want to attack me, go after what I said. And note that I did not call out the entire Nebraska fanbase. Dennis Dodd said nothing even remotely relevant to my comment. You complain about journalistic hackery in the OP, but then you quote it when it benefits you.
As for the picture you posted above, you can’t pretend to attribute to me the actions of the athletic department, unless you also want to link the Nebraska fanbase with the placement of the “Greatest Fans In College Football” signs in Memorial Stadium. Since you’ve already stated that the latter was Steve Pederson’s doing, I’ll assume you don’t.
I didn’t come here to start a fight. I’m enjoying the build-up for 10/16; it’s bigger in my mind than the Oklahoma game. And, most importantly, it’s fun. But if you think I’m wrong for calling out someone who actually said that Nebraska won the championship, I don’t see any way to reconcile this. Would you take me seriously if I said Alabama didn’t really beat Texas because Colt McCoy was hurt so it wasn’t really the Texas team? No, because it’s revisionist history. And it’s the stuff of crybabies.
Cheers.
Folks, he's right.
Was putting the second back on the clock allowable within the interpretation of the rules by the officials? Yes, just as much as allowing “The Catch” against Mizzou in ’97. Was it fair? Perhaps you could debate that point, but Texas won the game without cheating, as much as we might like to think otherwise.
I really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really hope we pound Texas into the ground on October 16th, and I’ll be glad to see the last of the Big 12 this season. But that’s no excuse to treat a respectable poster like this. Get your posts straight, be classy, and admit when your ‘opponent’ is right, mkay?
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Thanks buddy
Like I’ve suggested above: I like you guys, even if you don’t like us. I’ll never forget watching the Halloween game in 1998, when the crowd at Memorial Stadium gave Major Applewhite a standing ovation and chanted, “Heisman” for Ricky. That was my first real exposure to Husker fans, and I’ve talked about it a lot since then.
And for the record, I think Nebraska would have been foolish not to jump at the chance to join the Big Televen, even if the the Big XII had be a perfectly amicable situation. Do I agree with the shots fired from both sides? Not most of them. Are there rebuttal points for them? In most cases, yes. Does all of it make October 16 one of the biggest games of the entire college football season? You bet, and that’s the best part. The country will be focused on Lincoln that day, and that’s only appropriate for the last conference game between two of the winningest and most storied programs in the game.
It’s good to be a Longhorn fan, just as I’m sure it’s great to be a Cornhusker fan.
Cheers.
May I ask.
…how was it intentional grounding? Was he not outside the tackle box and was it not thrown past the LOS?
by vy til i die on Jul 26, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice "headline" article
Looks like Mr Blackwell likes to only use the headlines of an article to write his article from. Mike Boehm from the Nebraska athletic department said that every year a game is highlighted to pump up the alumni and fans. Last year it was Oklahoma, this year it was Texas.
Now if a game is highlighted every year, why all of a sudden is there such a big fuss about this year’s highlighted game? This “preaching to the choir” writer is trying to make it seem like this is the very first time Nebraska has ever done this.
I think that this over reaction from Texas and the lovefest attitude from Forde says much more about the Longhorns than about Nebraska. And calling for the “greatest fans” sign to be removed from Memorial stadium ,as Forde did, is really stupid.
The fans did not put that sign up, the University did. The sign could have multiple meanings; greatest fans for the most sell outs, greatest fans who walk through the doors from both sides, a reminder to behave in good sportsmanship fashion.
The question that I have is why we now has to walk on egg shells just to pump up the our fans. Why did the other schools in the other years of being the “highlighted” game not make the huge fuss that Texas has this year? Speaks volumes about Texas and about their being hyper sensitive.
asterisk
About the above photo. Is there an asterisk following the year 2008? If so, why?
The rationale,
which I do not endorse, was that we were regular-season co-champs, along with OU and TTU. According to the final standings prior to the Championship game, this was true. The athletic department was treating it like the league’s basketball championship (i.e., there is a regular season champion and a Big XII Tournament champion). I think I also read somewhere that it was intended as a motivational tool for the players.
Either way, I’m glad they took it down. It was childish.
Yes, That Is An Asterisk
In 2008, Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas Tech finished in a 3-way tie in the Big 12 South. Oklahoma won it under the Big 12’s tie-breaker rule. The spoiled-brat Longhorns promptly threw a temper tantrum and engaged in a little “revisionist history” (i.e. the photo). Someone snapped the photo of the 2008* on the wall in the UT football complex lounge and the pic found its way on espn.com, I believe.
When Texas got called out on it, the 2008* on the wall just “disappeared”………. conveniently.
For more info go to: . http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/1830/longhorns-have-claimed-the-2008-big-12-title-with-an-asterisk
Or, just Google “texas longhorn football 2008 asterisk.”
"No 00:01 Chances!!"
Christ
When you throw around phrases like “spoiled-brat,” it’s all I can do to keep from throwing it back.
F___ it. Read your signature line. Pot, meet Kettle.
You Made The Statement "I didn't come here to start a fight"
Yet, this was your opening salvo:
Revisionist history is the realm of crybabies, not world-class fans.
"No 00:01 Chances!!"
ZING!!!
You got me, buddy. Congrats.
Now that’s how you handle a defeat.*
*Don’t bother with some retort about how pointing it out defeats the purpose. I. Get. It.
to be fair...
I think what he meant for his signature line was: The 59:59 Champs!!!
I’m with you, I always liked Nebraska, always rooted for them, and they have no reason to apologize for accepting an offer from the Big Ten. It’s just risible when they try to say that somehow the team that’s still IN the Big12 was really the one who broke it up, not the team that left… I’d have a lot more respect for the Husker fanbase if they just said: “damn straight we had a better offer from a more stable conference and we took it” rather than try to blame everyone else for being on the wrong end of too many 11-1 votes. But in the end, that’s all just a quibble…
The thing that really makes me shake my head is when someone convinces themselves, despite all those pesky “facts” that somehow they got cheated by having to play a full 60 minutes. No one, no matter how biased, can look at the replays of the end of that game and legitimately hang on to the myth that it was somehow a bad call, yet some apparently do. We have a name for people living at that level of delusion, of course. But the world needs more Huskers’ fans, not more aggies…
OK
But if Texas had not been flirting w/ 3 other conferences, do you think NU would have left? It boggles my mind that Texas changes their minds about leaving, then all of a sudden they’re “saviors”. That’s like saying you saved someone’s life because you decided not to kill them.
Hadoken!!
We can treat guests better than this.
Seriously, disgruntled fans, Nebraska lost the Big 12 Championship fair and square. Texas deserved a second on the clock (as proven by a game clock overlay), and had the roles been reversed, you can bet Nebraska would have wanted what was rightfully theirs as well. Let’s move on and treat Texas fans better.
Regarding the original topic of the thread, my only response to Mr. Blackwell would be the picture of Texas’s 2008* conference title.
Reporter: "What would it take to get you to spend three or four days outside, on concrete?"
Joe Paterno: "Depends what she looks like."
by Cornbadger on Jul 26, 2010 1:12 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I haven't really been following the redoutaroundthewhatever...
But why in the world is everyone making such a big deal about the “Beat Texas” thing? We are talking about a sporting event right? I assume both teams will be trying to win? And that fans for each team will be rooting for said outcome?
by Trey Hillman's Chin on Jul 26, 2010 7:19 AM CDT reply actions
i think
because it’s not really about “Beat Texas” – it’s about rejection. Texas fans don’t like rejection, and that’s what’s happened here. Never mind that the Big 10 offer was a better offer than staying in the Big 12, it’s still rejection.
That, and it’s July. College football fans are a different kind of crazy in July.
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by Jon Johnston on Jul 26, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's about rejection
Nevermind that I’ve been the primary Longhorn commenter on this thread, and nevermind that I said the following:
I think Nebraska would have been foolish not to jump at the chance to join the Big Televen, even if the the Big XII had be a perfectly amicable situation.
I'm sorry...
But do you represent the entire Texas fanbase? I’m pretty sure the douche that wrote the article was also a Texas fan, I’m sure Geoff Ketchum is also a Texas fan, and they don’t share your views.
So don’t speak on their behalf, because they have publicly stated that they have the exact opposite sentiment that you have.
The writer bitches about the 2008 3-way tie in his article! He doesn’t share your fondness of the Nebraska program as it is now. So when someone on here posts a blanket statement about Texas fans or the university, assume they are talking about them, not you…
Jesus…
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jul 26, 2010 3:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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