Nebraska's Last Year in the Big 12: The T-Shirt Contest
by Jon Johnston on Jun 18, 2010 7:00 AM CDT
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PrintThe conference realignment explosion appears to have stabilized for now, and it looks like we're moving into a regular "offseason phase" until practice begins again in August. Our numbers have increased greatly over the past few weeks - we've had a lot more commenters, so what I thought about was doing something a little different on Fridays. What do you guys think of this - every Friday until fall practice begins, we take the best Friday fanpost and promote it to the front page.
That allows any community member who's got something to say get more recognition, because after all, Corn Nation is a Husker site that's about it's community. We continue to grow, and I believe there are a lot of you who have something to say, so this would be a way to promote that.
Besides that, Husker fans are going to head into their last season in the Big 12, and what do they need except for some good T-shirts to express their views. Hence, the "Last Year in the Big 12" t-shirt contest. We already have a theme for the season - a shirt that says "No Second Changes" that was suggested by community member Section 37. It's available in the Corn Nation T-Shirt store.
It'd be great if we got some t-shirts to go along with that to commemorate our last Big 12 season. Given the t-shirt store, we can put just about any phrase on a t-shirt, although you have to remember that we can't do anything with copyrighted logos, or names of players (NCAA rule violation). I'd prefer something that's not vulgar or profane.
Here's an example:
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by leeharvey418 on Jun 18, 2010 8:17 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm curious
Do Nebraska fans actually think they got hosed by the last second thing against Texas?
I mean, you did watch the replays, right?
I think some of the complaints
centered on the fact that there had been no precedent or rule for a ref to blow the whistle to end a game using the timing being held on the field, then deciding he wanted to review the replay to see if an additional second could be added to the game clock. I’ve been watching football for a while now, and I can’t think of that happening before either. Usually, the ref corrects the game clock because the timing is being held on the field, not up in the booth.
I’m sure this debate has been beaten to death, so sorry if it’s being brought up one more time.
I don't think
it will ever stop being relevant. The timing is amazing, given what’s happened to the conference.
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 18, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
just because it's never been done
doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be.
Soooo…
Football has been played for 100+ years and we’re not supposed to think we got hosed when the very first time an official bends the rules to do something it’s against us?
You have incredibly stupid logic.
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jun 20, 2010 8:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
sooo....
they’re supposed to get the call wrong because the rules are stupid?
you don’t even have incredibly stupid logic.
It was wrong of them to review the play. If they reviewed every single play to judge if time was stopped adequately there would’ve been at least 1:30 left on the clock. 1 second is not egregious, had there been 5 seconds left, I wouldn’t be arguing.
I guess UT – Columbia fans have to kowtow to their Texas overlords.
If I don’t have incredibly stupid logic, wouldn’t that make it incredibly great logic?
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jun 20, 2010 1:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
it has nothing to do with it being UT from my perspective
I hate them as much as you do. But the clock was run off incorrectly.
Nebraska fans are bottom line people generally, so I don’t understand all the angst over getting the call right. The bottom line is that they did what they needed to do to get the call right, and who gives a damn about precedence when it gets in the way of fair play?
directly from the ncaa rulebook:
Article 3a.
A ball not in player possession, other than a kick that scores
a field goal, is out of bounds when it touches the ground, a player, a game
official or anything else that is on or outside a boundary line.
Section 3, Article 2a. (regarding which plays can be reviewed)
Pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted anywhere in the field of
play or an end zone.
Section 3, Article 5b. (miscellaneous changes that can be made by replay)
Clock adjustment when a ruling is reviewed.
And just in case you want to say “yes, they can change the clock when they have legitimate other reasons to review the play, but they can’t review it just to change the clock”….well, actually they can:
Limitations on Reviewable Plays
ARTICLE 6. No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable.
However, the replay official may correct egregious errors, including those
involving the game clock, whether or not a play is reviewable. This excludes
fouls that are not specifically reviewable (Reviewable fouls: Rules 12-3-2-c
and d, 12-3-4-b and 12-3-5-a).
There is no leg for you to stand on here. The refs did nothing wrong.
a few corrections:
that first rule can be found at Rule 4, Section 1, Article 3a.
The rest are found in Rule 12, Section 3.
I’ll reitterate, 1 second is not egregious.
Section 3 Article 2a references “incomplete pass” as a pass that was determined to be either complete, and was not, or was ruled incomplete but was complete. Nothing pertaining to the game clock.
It was not ABC’s responsibility to keep track of the game clock, it was the official’s and by the official keeping time, the clock had run out.
Once again, .45 seconds is not egregious…
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jun 20, 2010 9:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
says you
I would call an egregious mistake a call that is clearly wrong, no matter by how much. The ball clearly landed out of bounds with time still on the clock and rules state that the ball is dead when it hits, not when the referee signals that it hits.
And the point in quoting the section regarding an incomplete passes was to show that the play is reviewable and in fact later in that section it says that the refs can review a play solely to correct the game clock.
So...you think that they stuck the word "egregious" in there just for fun?
The example of egregious they give, IIRC, is the clock running from a touchdown until the opening kickoff. If not, it’s something similar. It is a long, long stretch from that kind of egregiousness to less than 1 full second.
If the AP voted on the best soccer team after pool play and one additional game, no would would have the idiocy to use the term "champion" for that.
by AllSaintsDay on Jun 21, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
the definition of egregious
according to merriam-webster is “conspicuous”. This particular error was conspicuous if it was anything.
It makes no sense for the rule to be applied based on the amount of time run off the clock; if you did that, where do you draw the line? 2 seconds? 3? 10? No, the only way that rule makes sense is the “was it clearly a mistaken clock runoff, yes or no?” The answer in this case is yes, whether it was .5 seconds run off incorrectly or 50.
Then do that the whole game
Even if it’s only .5 of a second, we need that time on the clock, to avoid egregious errors.
you know
every time I think I have this worked out, I end up talking to one of my clients (who is not Nebraskan) who works me in a tizzy again.
Here’s his point – the clock is supposed to stop when the referee signals clock stoppage, not when the ball hit an object out of bounds. That’s how every other pass play is officiated, why should the last play be any different than the rest?
So, yeah, if I have to be completely honest, I think we got screwed. And if I was on a jury, there is a reasonable doubt in my mind that the second wouldn’t have been put back had Nebraska been in Texas’ position.
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 18, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions
And that's pretty much my point as well
They can call us whiners all they want (and they WILL, often). But the simple point is the rules must be applied consistantly and fairly between both teams throughout a game.
Did the ball hit something or otherwise land out-of-bounds with a hair of a second left on the clock…yes. Was simply making contact with something OOB used for the clock the whole rest of the game? NO!
Be consistant and fair with the application of the rules, and we’ve got no case. Reset the clock after every incomplete pass to reflect when the ball made contact instead of the ref’s whistle, and we’ve got no case. Do it ONLY at the end of the game to benefit Texas and give them another shot at the win, in order to preserve their BCS Championship Game shot, and you’re going to piss some people off.
But then, it’s pretty clear after Expansiongeddon, that this conference exists just to benefit Texas anyways, so none of us will be surprised during the upcoming season.
and the ref is supposed to signal
the instant the play is dead. There’s some inherent inefficiency in the system, but the only reason they’ve left things the way they are for so long is that most of the time it doesn’t make any real difference. So if you want to say that time should have stopped on the ref’s signal then I’ll say the ref signaled too late and they corrected his error.
Texas got lucky, but the Huskers weren’t shafted. Take it from a fan-base who knows a thing or two about being shafted.
Mizzou’s never been shafted, they’ve just always been garbage. Oooohhh you’ve beaten Nebraska 2-3 times in the past 30 years… You don’t draw eyes, people in Columbia don’t even care about them, and the BigXII will always do whatever makes them the most money, so get used to the Brut Sunj Bowl…
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jun 20, 2010 9:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Two plays come to mind
1. Un-debatable shafting in the “Fifth Down”
2. Debatable shafting in the “Flea-Kicker”
If a controversial play has its own nick-name, there may have been some shafting. That being said, Missouri deserves it!
by Thanks, Oops I Crapped My Pants on Jun 20, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
True...
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jun 20, 2010 11:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Come on Screw
Give credit where credit’s due. Missouri may not be known for having great teams through the last 40 years like Nebraska, but they HAVE had some damn good teams the last 5 or so. They have not ALWAYS been garbage.
Scoreboard...
5 years, 0 championships…
But you’re right, they haven’t ALWAYS been garbage. Unfortunately for Mizzou, that 4 year stretch was just a drawn out 2008 KU football season for them, a bunch of great offensive players with nothing to show for it.
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jun 20, 2010 1:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
+1 to rzor
Technically per the rules/setup of the game, yes, neb did get hosed. But in the spirit of it all, it doesn’t necessarily bother me. If Neb doesn’t choke on the kickoff or have the horse collar penalty, then this situation doesn’t happen in the first place.
Not to mention
something resembling an offensive attack. Get just one touchdown out of the many opportunities the Blackshirts handed the offense and it doesn’t matter what happens in the last second.
As to whether Nebraska got hosed or not, I’d say we did. But remember Hanlon’s Razor, which I learned at EDSBS:
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.Fact is, I don’t think Dan Beebe is smart enough to pull off a rigged game. On the field, Texas beat Nebraska with a little helpful incompetence, and that’s all that will ever matter.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
You have one last season to show the Big 12 what Nebraska football is.
Use it wisely! Texas is not some unbeatable bogeyman, neither is anyone in the conference.
Neb football should play loose and fast this year. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 19, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
This one kind of does.
Yeah, I’ve seen the replays and yeah there was some fraction of 1 second left on the clock when the pass hit the rail. Technically, the replay and call weren’t incorrect, but as rzor said, going to replay solely to see if there’s anyway you can overturn the call on the field and give Texas a second chance to win seems pretty cheap.
I’d feel differently if the replay showed a full second or more passed after the incompletion. That’s a common thing and it’s common practice to correct that in football, but I’ve never seen another football game that was called complete on the field and the seen outcome being overturned over a fraction of a second left on the clock.
On the other hand, I don’t feel too badly about it because if our offense had just been poor rather than completely impotent we would have rolled Texas. Our offense was so bad last year I can’t feel like we deserved the championship win and the BCS game no matter how well the defense played.
Amen to that
don’t point the finger point the thumb!!!!!
I had a similar thought
and I like it!
I had “Looking out for #1” for the tag line, and thought dates and locations of the games would be nice.
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I do like this one as well...
But the Big 10 w/ the Nebraska N would be against copyrights, I think.
by VarangianGuard on Jun 18, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps
some sort of
would work
It never gets to be easy
by chitownhawkeye on Jun 18, 2010 10:22 AM CDT reply actions
Dear Big X-II,
It’s you, not me
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Boot’s have many uses: walking, stomping, and licking. We just don’t like the flavor of boots
= = =
Who knew the Texas state color was yellow?
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Last time I saw Bevo, he was on a plate, headed for my stomach
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Don’t mess with the corn or you’ll get the cob
If ignorance is heavenly bliss, then welcome to hell.
Note: All post by this member may be edited & self-censored to spare everyone from his endless rants and swears.
I do like the first one...
It’s not you, it’s me….Classic.
by VarangianGuard on Jun 18, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
i don't know
how many of you have seen mgoblog’s t-shirt “”http://mgoblogstore.com/?p=prod_page&id=80&color_id=218" target="new">Worst State Ever" -
maybe one for Texas?
Note also that mgoblog already has a shirt for Nebraska – http://mgoblogstore.com/?p=prod_page&id=931&color_id=10
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
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first link
I don’t know why the friggin’ link thing keeps killing the link
http://mgoblogstore.com/?p=prod_page&id=80&color_id=218 <—— worst state ever.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 18, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually...
it should have the same outline of Neb with “We’re #12” in the front, but on the back have the Mizzou outline with the same message w/o the apostrophe.
clever!
Go Big Red Nebraska!
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by Jon Johnston on Jun 18, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
You Fat-Fingered It, Jon
We already have a theme for the season – a shirt that says “No Second Changes” that was suggested by community member Section 37. It’s available in the Corn Nation T-Shirt store.
That should be “NO 00:01 CHANCES!!”
BTW, can you believe that hideous grill on top of that t-shirt? AARRGGH!!!
"No 00:01 Chances!!"
Don't hop on the Michigan thing
Come on guys, I heard you Nebraska fans were the classiest of the classy. Pleas don’t team up with Michigan your classy stock will plummet and you will be forced to pay Warren Buffet hefty commissions to short your own value :)
Please win the Big XII in your final season
The whole country will be rooting for you to do it to piss in the conference’s cornflakes as you ride off into the East to make mad Big Ten money.
Light a man a fire, he'll stay warm for a day.
Light a man afire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
After winning the Big 12, meet up with Iowa in the national championship game!
Wouldn’t that be amazing?
by HawkeyeRecon on Jun 18, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
There’s some sort of Exodus and Red Sea spin off that I just can’t put in so few words that it would fit on the shirt. Something about in the original Exodus split the Red Sea. This time around, it’s the Red Sea comes together, and heads to the Promised Land.
Too religious perhaps? Then again, I worship college football.
Big Ten Expansion. Better than Mizzou.
The fault is ours. So is all that Big Ten money.
We Never Liked Roman Numerals Anyway.
We’ll be slower next year. Big Ten in 2011.
Big XII. Now 1/12th Less Corny.
Close Shave, Barbasol!
mmmm… rotel…
My new conference is smarter than yours.
by formerlyanonymous on Jun 18, 2010 10:09 PM CDT reply actions
This Borders On Blasphemy, But Picture This...
A robed Tom Osborne holding the (Big) Ten Commandments, stands before Pharaoh DeLoss Dodds and his false god Bevo, points to the Sea of Red and says “Let my people go!!”
What else could we add to that?
"No 00:01 Chances!!"
by Section 37 on Jun 18, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would love to see a t-shirt or poster with the following schedule:
09/04: Nebraska v Western Kentucky
09/11: Nebraska v Idaho
09/18: Nebraska at Washington
09/25: Nebraska v South Dakota
10/07: Nebraska at UT – Manhattan
10/16: Nebraska v Texas
10/23: Nebraska at UT – Stillwater
10/30: Nebraska v UT – Columbia
11/06: Nebraska at UT – Ames
11/13: Nebraska v UT – Lawrence
11/20: Nebraska at UT – College Station
11/26: Nebraska v Colorado (This isn’t as fun since Colorado showed a spine and went to the Pac 10)
12/04: Big 12 Championship
by Wendi Wheelchair on Jun 18, 2010 10:56 PM CDT reply actions
Put Herbie on the shirt!
How about a picture of Herbie Husker writing a check to Bebee and Bebee telling him to make it out to the University of Texas!
have a shirt with T.O. walking with a big ten looking person
And on the back have Pinkel crying don’t leave me here with them.
Some ideas:
Big XII: Go Shuck Yourselves.
-———————————————————
The Big XII: Now 10% Iowa State!
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
Can you call it 10% Iowa State
when they don’t get a 10% share?
Hmm, “The Big XII: 5% Iowa State, after Texas Taxes”
The KSU ISU game is already called that
I don’t want to be associated with that mess.
You can't possibly be a scientist if you mind people thinking that you're a fool.
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Big Red Kool-aid Drinker @ Corn Nation
Let's keep it classy
I’d vote for something on the classier side.
I know we’re upset with the B12. I know we’re upset with UT.
But keep in mind when we say FU to them, we’re saying FU to everyone else – The coaches, players, fans and administration of some very fine schools. We’ve competed with some for around 100 years and I don’t want to disrespect them in any way. I think that paints an ugly picture of NU.
I, personally, have no ill will toward most of the teams in the conference – especially our old Big 8 brethren. I wish them all the very best.
I have no good suggestions on a shirt though… I’m not that creative. Something along the ‘thanks for the memories’ line?? Anyone have suggestions?
t-shirt contrest
This is my entry…WE ARE NEBRASKA!…..What do I win?
Nothing, except a trip to Beaver Stadium..
.. for plagerizing PSU’s “We are Penn State” tag line.
Granted, I don't know what down it is..
and the "we are iowa" crap.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State." - Chris Carter
2nd try @ t-shirt contest
“YOU AIN’T NEBRASKA!”
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