Nebraska To the Big 10: Pulling the Plug Ain't the Same As Killing
by Jon Johnston on Jun 12, 2010 10:00 AM CDT
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Well, I know I'm waking up hungover this morning, how 'bout you?
Despite the celebrations that you and I had last night, life goes on. Today I'll attend some graduation parties (they better have beer), and talk to some young people about what is going to happen, what they're going to do with their lives. I love hearing them, somewhat because I see myself in them, but more because I love to hear their plans.
That's not entirely different from where we are now (we, Husker fans) - as in having stated goals of what we (we, the University of Nebraska) want to accomplish moving to the Big 10, then being entirely surprised when things don't exactly work out that way. Oh. Of course, that's years away yet. I'm not trying to be depressing, I just want to point out that the most wonderful things in life happen out of plans gone awry.
How did you meet your wife, BTW? Give that a second, then click the jump (and Mrs Corn Nation says I'm not romantic.)
Smart choice, but contradiction for Huskers
Are we responsible for the death of the Big 12? Hmmm..... ESPN Big 12 bloger David Ubben thinks so. Me? Yeah, probably. But when you see that Texas wouldn't give up their media rights, and there weren't any guarantees past 2016, WTF did everyone expect us to do?
Seriously, what did you other guys expect? This isn't about sticking it to Texas, or Iowa State, or any of the rest. This is about making Nebraska the best it can be, and that's what Harvey Perlman is supposed to be doing, otherwise, he wouldn't be doing his job. Same with Tom Osborne.
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Nebraska makes a dozen for the Big Ten; Texas commences plans for next Big 12 exodus
Dr Matt Hinton chimes in.....
BIG TEN EXPANSION WELL WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT
Spencer is just... well. Blasphemous. Hilariously so, boils and all. (Oh, lookie, I capitalized "B". Hey, if you're not afraid of crazy Old Testament God, you're kind of an idiot.)
Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten - CBSSports.com
Dennis Dodds writes two articles in a single week that are all gushy about Nebraska. (Okay one article, one blog post). WTF is up with that dude? It's like he's all born again, Big Red style!
MIZZOUEXPANSIONAPALOOZA 2010™: Where Does Mizzou End Up? - Rock M Nation
A look at where Missouri might end up after conference realignment. Many options are on the table, from the Big Ten, to a redefined Big 12, to the Big East, to the Mountain West.
I would like to see one other Big 12 team join us in the Big 10. And seriously, Texas ain't gonna be that team. It would make me happy to see Missouri join us if for no other reason than they've got a shot at it, and I kind of like hatin' on those sunsabitches. Wouldn't it be nice to keep one single strand of near-constant (constant in the internet age being... oh, three years or so) hate on tap?
Big Ten expansion: Another way to look at the academics
I realize lots of college sports fans don't give a damn how many cement-heads play on their favorite team, but places like the Star Tribune editorial page and MinnPost get paid to chin-stroke about academics.Interesting perspective - I'm sure he stayed up all night coming up with that cement heads comment. Hyuk.
Nebraska to the Big 10 - BCS Evolution
And they parted with a few jabs at the Texas Longhorns. Nebraska wanted to make it clear that the Big 12's blood was not on their hands.
A jab reference.....
Perlman's response to the ultimatum
...... and then here's the roundhouse, the uppercut, the stunning blow. That Harvey Perlman, he's a helluva fighter, that guy. Glad he's on my side. Blame? Yeah, go ahead and blame Nebraska if it makes ya feel better, I suppose it's natural. It's even religious.
First thing Adam did when confronted with Crazy Old Testament God was say "the women made me do it", a sign that blaming someone else is as old as humanity. Reality is, there's plenty of blame to go around.
What you have to be aware of, as a Nebraska fan, is that some of us are going to bear the brunt of it, and when I say "us" I don't mean "me", I mean our fans that live in Big 12 south areas. And in the fall, it'll translate to our student-athletes (but that's a whole 'nother story which we have plenty of time to get to).
The Realignment Watch - As of 1:52pm Nebraska has left the Big 12 building
Holy shit. Scroll down to my comment. I was just trying to defend our position. Stupid me, I guess.
Now, to be fair to BON, if you scroll further down to the bottom, you'll see some posts by a couple people who have posted here at CN. Decent argument there.
Here's what is bugging me, less than 24 hours into this. Why is Texas pissed off? I mean, they can do whatever they want. They're Texas, dammit. They have all the resources, they can choose what they want to do. So, honestly, what is pissing them off so much?
And don't answer that with anger - think about it for a minute because some of the Texas guys have been pretty decent here (which I suppose is easier because we're 1-8 against them).
Big 12 can thrive, commissioner Dan Beebe says
"There is a bright future if we stay together," said Beebe, adding that money "shouldn't be part of the equation" but noting, "If it's about other factors that are outside of our control, then there's nothing I can do about it." No, Dan, money shouldn't be part of the equation, but it is. It's especially never part of the equation when you have a lot of it, like, say.... Texas? In a nutshell, Beebe points at the death of the conference. Revenue sharing wasn't equal, Texas refused to give up their media rights (money) - am I reading something into this, or does it appear that Beebe was never going to force those issues, and because he didn't, the Big 12 is dead. Am I right on that?
It's The End of the College Football World As We Know It....And I Feel Fine
Who didn't have this song running through their head at least once last week?
So Nebraska pulled the plug on the Big 12. Somebody had to do it
When the 'Huskers were presented with an ultimatum to stay or go at last week's meeting, Perlman said, the Texas/Oklahoma contingent strongly suggested that "if Nebraska stayed in the Big 12, they would stay in the Big 12." Not if Nebraska and Missouri or Colorado. Just Nebraska.
There's a reason that Dr. Matt Hinton gets two links - it's because he's a damned good writer. He's good at spotting stuff like this when others have missed it.
Go to that link, read that last paragraph (not the one quoted here) and then come back here and tell me - If you're the guy that finally calls the body dead, are you the one that killed it?
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A mercy killing
Is exactly what this was. The only issue is the collateral damage caused if any of the weak sisters don’t land in a major conference. And at this point everyone except for Iowa State looks to have options.
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they have the MAC
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Then you haven't been on BHGP
in the last 3 months.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 13, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven’t .. sorry.. I usually stick to the Rivalry and Maize n brew during the off season, and I hadn’t seen it on either of those. I’ll have to hop on over there and catch up on the conversation there.
It's fun
if you can get past all the shitty beautiful MS Paint and non sequiter links.
Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.
by Kyle McCann't on Jun 14, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care if he is on his meds this week
I still ain’t giving Dennis Dodd any web traffic.
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
One thing what we haven't talked about here
is the job Perlman has done. He just stood up to the Texas ultimatum, and ultimately put them in their place. He got NU into the B10 which offers all the benefits we have talked about.
You can't possibly be a scientist if you mind people thinking that you're a fool.
~Wanko the Sane
Big Red Kool-aid Drinker @ Corn Nation
I have nothing but respect for Perlman
I like him way the hell better than one of your former chancellors. By the way – any chance you’d take Spanier back?
"Nothing turns me on like doe estrus." - ReadingRambler
by leeharvey418 on Jun 12, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!
Some of the comments on Dodds’ piece were saying this is going to cost Omaha the CWS!!! LOL!!!!! It’s locked up for the next 25 years and there is ABSOLUTELY ZERO CHANCE that the NCAA/Jim Delany will support a measure to buy out the contract. It would cost the NCAA millions upon millions of dollars and Jim Delany is, by far, the most powerful man in college athletics.
I love it when people realize their teams have been made to look like fools and they’ll say just about anything to make themselves feel better.
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jun 12, 2010 12:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Texas will do what Texas will do,
but as for me and the majority over at http://www.blackshoediaries.com, we’re pretty pumped to have you folks. I guarantee we’ll treat you better than we were when we arrived.
Again – welcome. With a capital WELCOME!
P.S. – did you know our coach is old?
'People are about as happy as they decide they want to be'
by Pete the Streak on Jun 12, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions
My respect for Delaney sky-rocketed
when he said something to the effect of, “We didn’t welcome Penn State like we should have, and we’re going to do better by Nebraska.” One of the premier signs of good leadership is a willingness to admit mistakes and learn from them. A sign still being sought in the remainder of the Big 12, I might add.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Get A Load Of This Column In The Fort Worth Star-Telegram
http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/06/12/2259254/its-real-shame-watching-so-many.html
Talk about your cranky wakes, everybody has a parting shot for this once proud league starting with those whiners from Nebraska.
OK, OK, you have more than 14 TVs in the booming metropolis that is Lincoln. Are you happy? Now, go get your butts handed to you in The Big Ten and shut up.
So this is what it’s like to be in the middle of a messy A-list celebrity divorce or a big rock band breaking up. Oh well. I expected this…. especially from Texas.
“Texas is good at this sort of thing — it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it.” – Dennis Dodd
"No 00:01 Chances!!"
That’s my sig! Thanks DD!
[Osborne's] school has this ultimatum from Texas to either spit or get off the pot. Commit to the Big 12, Texas is saying, or we'll take this Pac-10 offer, rake in more cash and kiss the Big 12 goodbye. It's on you, Nebraska. Texas is good at this sort of thing -- it could blame Cadillac for those Toyota brake problems and get away with it. - Dennis Dodd
by Screwface on Jun 12, 2010 1:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
By The Numbers
I am among multitudes of Buckeye fans who are glad to welcome you guys into the B10. Your academics are sterling. Husker football is legendary.
One of our blogs, Eleven Warriors (http://www.elevenwarriors.com/) regularly features an informal poll, regarding hot topics. Please visit us.
The following sample is typical of the spirit expressed by our fans, on ALL B10 blogs:
06/11/2010 AT 3:15PM
"Nebraska to the Big Ten:
244 approve
10 disapprove"
Here’s To The Huskers!
Welcome Friends!
Go Bucks!
Muck Fichigan!
by Buckeye Armyguy on Jun 12, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions
A Suggestion
I’m curious to know what Husker fans think will happen next, regarding B10 expansion. Which teams should be invited? How many more teams should join?
by Buckeye Armyguy on Jun 12, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions
From Experience
When you add a new school, you bring in new thoughts, new philosophies, new cultures and new people to the table that like to voice their opinions. The more schools you start to add, the more cultures and philosophies you start to mix in with your own. Tread carefully if you want to expand with more schools. The more you add, the less it will feel like the Big 10 you know.
When the Big 8 merged with the four Texas schools, everything changed. We no longer played all of our conference foes every year and that killed our rivalry with Oklahoma. We sat down at this twelve person table the Texas schools had a little different view point on how things should be done.
Honestly, my personal opinion is to stay at 12 until Notre Dame decides on what to do. If you go to 16 teams, just be prepared to see a lot less of the teams you are now use to playing.
by Aaron Musfeldt on Jun 12, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
One More Thing (For Now)
I miss that NU-OU rivalry. And I hope you can continue playing the Jayhawks and Tigers.
by Buckeye Armyguy on Jun 12, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, congrats fellas.
I’ll be sad to see the CU-NU rivalry go, but this was totally the right decision for decision.
Here’s also a tidbit: Nebraska may not have left the Big 12 at all. With the probable death of the Big 12 as we knew it a week ago, the name “Big 12” may be open. If the Big Tweleven doesn’t add any more teams, it’s entirely possible that they could change the number and move Nebraska from the Big 12 to the Big 12.
(Not likely, but at least it’s possible.)
The rest will be OK.
Congrats should go to the HUskers. They did what they had to do. Please spare everyone the ugly comments about the other Big XII schools though. Calling schools cheap names like your sisters, etc. only demeans Nebraska and you all are better than that. You hate the horns, Mizzou hates the horns….heck we all do. We should have kicked Texas out and moved on. Enjoy this great achievement but keep things in prospective. A couple years ago your little sister schools were dragging you up and down the field like a high school team. Ups and downs…..everything changes but for now, enjoy this monumental achievement. Mizzou might still see you somewhere in the South on New Years Day.
Welcome...
Your coach learned everything he knows about football in the state of Ohio.
(This is not uncommon for most Division I programs)
Congrats from U. of Washington
As a University of Washington and PAC 10 life long fan, I just want to say congrats on your move to the Big 10. Your football program has great history, and I kind-of wish you were coming out west; however, the Big 10 is a great fit for you. It’s good to see Nebraska back on the rise. We were both power programs for decades that have suffered through hard times. We’re both on the way back and college football is better for it. Wow, how weird is this week been. Nebraska is in the Big 10, Colorado’s is in the Pac 10, with Texas and almost all the Big XII south on the way to the left coast. The two most traditional and conservative conferences out there are changing the world.
Hawkeye fan here
I will add my welcome to the others. I think it is great that IOWA and Nebraska will play each other on a regular basis – should have been happening already. I think adding you to the Big Teneleven/12 is an upgrade and it should be fun.
Life is hard. It's really hard if you're stupid.
Watching from a distance, this:
Beebe was never going to force those issues, and because he didn’t, the Big 12 is dead.
seems correct to me. As all of this started to gain momentum, I was stunned to learn that media revenue was not divided equally in the Big XII. You simply cannot run a conference that way.
On another note, you folks are lucky to have a guy like Tom Osborne steering that ship. He was perfect pitch on Friday.
One school leaving a conference does not break up a conference. Two schools leaving a conference does not break up a conference. Six schools leaving a conference breaks up a conference.
Very few people who don’t live in Texas or who aren’t wearing burnt orange colored glasses fail to see the truth in this.
Welcome.
"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway
The saddest, or possibly the funniest, thing
about the death of the B12 is that a lack of money didn’t kill it. A lack of talent didn’t kill it. A lack of TV ratings didn’t kill it. The Big 12 was financially in much better shape, as a league, on average, than the Pac-10 or Big East.
What killed the Big 12 is a poorly defined financial and legal structure that allowed Texas to become league dictator, and Texas not giving a crap (no matter what Chip’s twitter says) about the other schools in the league.
No alarms and no surprises please.
AM I BITTER?
I have been bleeding Scarlet and Cream fore 50 years. I have always been proud of them no matter what! The Boys may struggle in the Big 10 but they will make me proud. Hey Oklahoma! We leave with the satisfaction of kicking your butts the last time we played. So there! Hey Texas! Why don’t you and all the other Texas schools form your own league? And spare the world all that hot air just because your are from the SECOND biggest state. One more thing. I want Notre Dame to join the B10 so I can have the huge satisfaction of the Big Red kicking their blue and gold snotty arses.
I think it fair to say
that all of the Big Ten schools and fans feel the same way. Welcome to the league. I hope you play in the NC against another Big Ten team (I know it won’t be my Gophers) so you can both laugh about this at the 50 yard line for the coin flip.
F Texas.
No one is getting Rubio's rights unless they pry them from our cold dead fingers.
by TheEvilProfessor on Jun 14, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
As Jack would say.... We're Back....."
So much for the obituary columns about the Big XII. I bet before the Big XII folds up in a few years there will be more people in Nebraska than in the other Big Ten states. Everyone is moving South and West and all the big time influence with it, so good luck. I really hope it works out for the Huskers. If you didn’t like Texas being the boss just wait until you meet up with the Buckeyes and Woverines, who own the Big Ten.
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