Will Muschamp to Coach Florida Gators

by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2010 10:33 AM CST in College Football - National

I didn't see that coming. I don't know if anyone did.

Texas defensive coordinator and "Coach In Waiting" (hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahaha) will be named the new head coach of the Florida Gators, replacing Urban Meyer. Texas fans aren't happy - this makes 2010 officially the worst season ever in the history of mankind, something that ought to have you laughing this morning.

For some icing on your morning doughnut, it appears that Major Applewhite may be going with Muschamp to be the new offensive coordinator.

Florida fans are a little apprehensive that Muschamp has no head coaching experience, but sure that he'll be an excellent coach. Spencer Hall is wondering whether Florida has just hired the 1999 version of Bob Stoops or whether everyone is going to die because of the decision.

Wow. Just when Texas gets a shiny new conference they can dominate the wheels fall off the wagon. I'm weeping for the Longhorns inside, I really am.

Hmmmmmmm, Bailey's in my coffee this morning? Yes, doubly so.

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" I’m weeping for the Longhorns inside, I really am… Bailey’s in my coffee this morning? Yes, doubly so."

We all are Jon, we all are. On both accounts.

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by KenK on Dec 12, 2010 10:44 AM CST reply actions

Quick glancing at BON...

Did they really think that Muschamp was just going to sit there, waiting for Brown? I would have bet that he would have taken the Tenn job last year if Kiffin didn’t leave it in such a mess. UT is a great program, but not to the extent that coaches will just sacrifice their careers just to stay there. And if Applewhite leaves, then methinks they really are a mess, a mess well beyond just this season. UT may be crippled for 2 to 3 years.

Kinda hard to gloat though. As bad and undisciplined as they were, UT is still 9-1 against Neb. Man, thank God Nebraska got that one.

by meatybob on Dec 12, 2010 11:09 AM CST reply actions

I think most Texas fans would gladly give up

the win vs. Nebraska this year for a more stable situation right now in their football program.

by Aaron Musfeldt on Dec 12, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions

BON . . .

and most of their posts end with “we are Texas, aren’t we?”

by 8th St Choppers on Dec 12, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions

So Since Muschamp Left For More Money

And a better position in another conference, does that mean he is a turncoat bastard deserter renegade loyalty-shattering tradition-trashing piece of garbage, or does that only apply to Nebraska leaving for the Big 10?

Bwahahahahahaha!

by UltimaRatioRegum on Dec 12, 2010 2:06 PM CST reply actions

Ha

Although if we were going to make the analogy truly parallel, Mack Brown would have been actively looking for another head coaching job first, then called Muschamp a bastard traitor for leaving, then called himself the savior of the program for ultimately deciding to stay.

by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 12, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Exactly!!

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by Brizzle T on Dec 12, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions

Nailed It!

by UltimaRatioRegum on Dec 13, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions

Well you can't blame Muschamp

The Florida job is about Texas’ equal in terms of head coaching positions, so it kind of became a question of now vs 5 years or so down the road. Plus, who knows how patient Dodds is down there in Austin. Maybe Muschamp was afraid the offensive shakeup would lead to another disaster in 2011, leading to potentially the whole staff getting the boot.

I don’t know how much goodwill Brown has stored up in Austin, but it’s hard to see Texas being very tolerant of back to back losing seasons. Looking to next year……

OU, A&M, OSU, and Mizzou should probably be counted in the near automatic loss column. KSU, Tech, and Baylor losses are definitely possible. And they could easily lose one out of KU, ISU, and CU. Also between BYU and UCLA, they’ve got a very poor chance of even making it to conference play 3-0. So where does that leave us? Best case 8-4? Worst case 3-9?

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Dec 12, 2010 2:28 PM CST reply actions

I'm betting they'll make a bowl game

6-6, 7-5 range, maybe 8-4 if things break right.

by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 12, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions

Sadly, I am too

We know from experience that even with horrible defensive coordinators, it takes a while for the wheels to fall off a good defense (McBride——>Bohl, Pelini——→Cosgrove, our 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005, and 2006 defenses were not awful by any means). And Texas is still a talented team. Unfortunately they should be back within a couple years. I’m just hoping they get impatient and fire Mack Brown before he can engineer the turnaround. Probably too much to ask for.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Dec 12, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions

I've never been sold on Mack Brown being as good as advertised.

He’s certainly competent, but you could make an argument that the Longhorns of the 2000s have done less with more talent than any other program in the country. Sure, my opinion could be colored by jealousy, since we’re 0-for-decade against them, but they’ve got precious little to show for a program that “selects” instead of “recruits” players.

"...water for the corn." — petromax spambot

by Go Big Rev on Dec 12, 2010 3:59 PM CST reply actions

Texas has certainly done all right for themselves in the past decade

Nine straight 10-win seasons under Mack until this year.

But given that no school in the country has an easier recruiting situation, the fact that Oklahoma has 7 Big 12 championships this decade to Texas’ 2 has to be downright embarrassing for the Longhorns.

by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 12, 2010 4:51 PM CST up reply actions

That's kinda what I'm saying.

It’s somewhat akin to Nebraska under Pelini thus far: lots of unfulfilled potential. The great coaches – Osborne, Saban, Alvarez, Beamer are four who come to mind – maximize whatever talent they have and teach their teams not to flinch at crucial moments. Thinking back on the last ten years, there’s a lot of flinching going on without Colt McCoy or Vince Young. Talent alone can get you a lot of wins – but not the crucial wins, and not against top-flight teams.

"...water for the corn." — petromax spambot

by Go Big Rev on Dec 12, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, I know.

I was agreeing with you. I’m trying to think of who else I would put in that category – Carroll? Meyer? Probably Spurrier. Paterno, definitely, even though he’s lost a couple of steps.

by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 12, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions

I think Brown's a good coach

But he’s done a lot…..with more resources at his disposal than anyone in the country besides Carroll at USC probably.

And yes, minus a Heisman caliber quarterback leading them, UT has been at best a 2 loss team over the last decade. There does seem to be a bit of a hex on schools like Florida, USC, and Texas though. With the talent they have in their backyards, they don’t recruit, they choose the players they want. Within the last decade, both USC and Miami went on scorched earth, take no prisoners runs over the course of about 3 years apiece where they looked like juggernauts that could never be stopped…..and they not only fell back to the pack, they fell to the middle or maybe even the back 3rd of the pack. Hard to keep that momentum going.

Makes you appreciate even more what Osborne was able to do at a school that didn’t have nearly the access to recruits that the Cali/Florida/Texas schools do.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Dec 13, 2010 2:21 AM CST up reply actions

Absolutely.

And Osborne doesn’t get that done without character and leadership from the players on those teams. Tommie Frazier was the Heisman-caliber QB, but without the Peters, Tomich, Zatechka, Weigert, Stai, Stewart, Frost, Minter, and the plethora of other folks on the 93-97 teams, 60-3 doesn’t happen. Aaron Taylor said that Nebraska practices in that era were tougher than any game, if I remember right, and that comes from players selling out for the coach’s vision.

I see the possibility of this kind of program under Pelini. In some ways we’re seeing it on defense already – if the offense, particularly the line, can get to that level of intensity we could be looking at some pretty good runs in the future. The same was true for Florida under Meyer and Tebow, and I think we all know Tebow was as valuable as a leader as he was at QB.

Without that leadership (Colt McCoy) or otherworldly talent (Vince Young) Texas hasn’t had the attitude to make the next step, IMO. Still kicked our asses over the past 15 years, but we had neither talent nor leadership for a lot of those years. In that case, losses become understandable (but never acceptable).

"...water for the corn." — petromax spambot

by Go Big Rev on Dec 13, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions

Hey - Texas -

I’ve got an offensive co-ordinator for you – name’s Watson . . .

by 8th St Choppers on Dec 12, 2010 6:58 PM CST reply actions

Can't

blame the guy one bit. An opportunity to step out from Macks shadow and at a school like Florida. It was a no brainer. Mack is going to be around for at least another 3 to 5 years so why wait? Plus he is an SEC guy anyway already has the connections for recruiting. Plus with his time at Texas he probably made some great connections in that hotbed. I don’t see Florida missing a beat under this guy. Although, I can see the media staying all over him the way they do Pelini because they have similar sideline demeanor.

by Huzkerfan on Dec 13, 2010 12:37 PM CST reply actions