Corn Nation: The Day After Texas A&M
by JLew on Nov 21, 2010 5:11 PM CST
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PrintSo close to posting this as NU 6, A&M 3, Refs 6.
Look Jon, and Mike have calmed down (Jon in the post below, Mike in the links) and they are completely correct in their balanced thoughts and analysis. I'll get there...
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I'm not there yet. Not even close. Could be the Wii that died on me this morning, adding to my frustration. Could be the trolls falling over themselves to post over here. Could just be A&M being handed the game last night. Probably the last one.
Nebraska needs to forget this game. Beat CU next week, then take the B12 title and head off to the Big 10. But Watson and the offense coached have to to find someway to move the ball and score points without Martinez, or with whatever percentage of T-Mart NU has.
So list the things that piss you off today in the comments. I'll start-
Husker Mike's Blasphemy: From A to Z: Aggies, Injuries, & Zebras Too Much for Huskers to Overcome
Let's put tonight's game in perspective. Nebraska went -14 in penalties and -2 in turnovers against a ranked opponent on the road, and only lost 9-6 ... with their biggest playmaker hobbled. In the grand scheme of things, the Huskers are still in decent shape.
No I will not calm down. I am not making a scene.
Scout.com: CFN Analysis - Texas A&M 9, Nebraska 6
The hit – which was not late, and which did not hit any part of A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill’s helmet – failed to meet any standard for a personal-foul penalty. It was as standard-issue a hit as anything seen on any gridiron in week 12. Yet, it drew a piece of yellow laundry, and it directly led to the Aggies’ game-winning field goal. It’s impossible to look at this game and not conclude that one call – a judgment call poorly arrived at and then unrevoked – decided the outcome. It’s not as though the Aggies made a good play or did anything to render the flag a moot point. It was a gift, and a gift that carried more than a little weight.
See anger returning..
Chatelain: This game gave new meaning to the term ‘12th Man' - Omaha.com
Nebraska was charged with 16 penalties and Texas A&M two. And that's why the Huskers lost. That's why. That's it.
AGGGHHHHHHHH
See if JLew calms down after the break.
What we learned in the Big 12: Week 12 - Big 12 Blog - ESPN
The Huskers were already playing with a bit of an us-against-the-world edge after the suspension of Eric Martin earlier in the year, and that will only intensify now. Also, I got in touch with my buddy over at the Big Ten blog, Adam Rittenberg, and after checking with Jim Delany & Co. at the league office in Chicago, we can report that in almost a century of Big Ten football, no call has ever been missed. So take heed, Huskers. Upon your exit to the Big Ten, you'll finally be out from underneath the tyrannical thumb of human error.
What a horrible slanted hack job this is David. You wanna be more than a blog jockey for ESPN, do better than this. (Still angry)
Rivals.com College Football - Experts: Week 12 awards, what we learned
Texas A&M's Wrecking Crew is back. At the least, it's on the way back. OK, there were some, uh, questionable calls that went against Nebraska, but that shouldn't take away from a tremendous effort by the Aggies' defense to limit the high-scoring Huskers to just two field goals in a 9-6 A&M victory. QB Ryan Tannehill and the Aggies' offense have received most of the attention during their current five-game winning streak, but the defense has been exceptional, too. The Aggies held Oklahoma to 18 points three games ago and shut out Baylor in the second half last week. Then, against Nebraska, the Aggies held the Huskers to their lowest point total in three seasons.
Thing that pisses me off #1. Martinez is hurt. You beat NU without it's QB, or it's #2 QB. Look Lee is hurt, no way we don't see him against ISU, or ATM if he's not hurt. You beat NU with it's #3 QB, and needs the refs to hand it to you. (Not helping me calm down)
Steven M. Sipple: Pressure mounting on NU from all sides
Colorado (5-6, 2-5 Big 12) comes to Lincoln riding a two-game winning streak. The Buffaloes can hang loose Friday, while the Huskers feel the weight of the world. So much for breezing to that Big 12 North crown.
Yeah I'm sure this will work out well. (Though should officials really help CU? They are leaving as well)
Scout.com: CFN Rankings - No. 1 to 120 - Week 12
NU #12
Better Off Red | Did Taylor Call His Dad During the A&M Game?
All I see is watermelon, watermelon, watermelon...
Video: Nebraska tight end gets violated, then gets flagged - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF - Yahoo! Sports
This video is all over the internet. Odds that Troy gets suspended? Oh no wait I forgot this happens "All the time" so it's excusable. Go ahead and ram your finger up there, (Was calming down, now upset again)
So nope, still upset. We'll try again on Mon or Tues.
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Pissed off #2
People saying that “option” QBs get hurt more often. Martinez was dropping back when he got stepped on.
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Very frustrating game indeed.
Considering we basically got fucked by refs, bad nerves (some of the penalties were our fault), and injures we did really well.
Calming down… maybe…maybe… deep breathes
To be fair
If there’s any slanted homer column in that set, it’s Chatelain’s. I was actually a little embarrassed for him after reading that. It was uncharacteristic to see that kind of emotion from one of the OWH or LJS writers – they’re usually pretty level-headed in their writing.
I didn’t really have a problem with Ubben’s column. The dig at Husker fans and the Big Ten at the end was a little tacky, though, and it sidestepped Husker fans’ core contention that the Big Ten has been pretty free of bush-league officiating scandals for the past few years, something the Big 12 is constantly struggling with.
“..that the Big Ten has been pretty free of bush-league officiating scandals ..”
Scandal free, perhaps; inept officiating, no. I managed to get through Ohio State’s win having watched one of the most half-assed officiating U had ever seen. until I watched the Nebraska game.
Out of curiosity, in the few years prior to Pelini’s hire, what was Nebraska’s penalty differential with it’s opponents?
Anyway, that was a tough one last night. Good luck next week. Welcome to the Big 10; you’re going to be a great addition to the conference.
Granted, I don't know what down it is..
I've been a Wisconsin fan for almost 20 years
And I can’t remember the Badgers ever being on either side of as poorly officiated a game as several of the ones we’ve seen from the Big 12 in the past year or so.
As for the penalty differential pre-Pelini, I have no idea. I’d have to look at stats to find out, and I’m too lazy to do that right now.
by Cheeseandcorn on Nov 21, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions
That's OK,
no need to go to the bother. I was wondering iif the Huskers were taking on the fiery demeanor of their coach..
Granted, I don't know what down it is..
The most frustrating comments to me are those that
claim that Nebraska can’t complain about the officials because they didn’t deserve to win. I would agree that the officiating was not he lone reason Nebraska lost and there were multiple instances where lack of discipline, intriguing play calling, and not having a QB hurt us (imagine that), but those saying that are implying that Texas A&M somehow “deserved” to win. The fact of the matter that A&M did win but the stats (and watching the game) betray the fact that they did just as little as Nebraska with the exception of one FG which was directly set up by a bad call that everyone acknowledges despite team affiliation.
This game doesn’t really affect Nebraska’s goals for this season (that would be the embarrassing Texas loss) as a win against Colorado will put the team in the same position it found itself before the game, but it certainly was frustrating to watch from a fan perspective all around.
by George W. Beadle on Nov 21, 2010 5:54 PM CST reply actions
It is virtually impossible to decouple the penalties from the lack of offensive firepower.
One cannot criticize the lack of rhythm on offense without acknowledging that penalties severely hindered Shawn Watson’s playcalling options. Nebraska was in the following long-yardage situations on 3rd down caused by penalties: 12, 44, 17, 9, 7, 9. (I am not trying to let Watson off the hook for the procedural penalties and personal fouls that caused most of these, only to put his playcalling in perspective.
Reporter: "What would it take to get you to spend three or four days outside, on concrete?"
Joe Paterno: "Depends what she looks like."
Bo
was embarassing. Yeah we got hosed bad. It was a Usecheckian performance out there by the zebras. But yelling at T-Magic and getting a personal foul? Come on, Bo. And we still almost won…but the offense has major, major problems. It’s like T-Mart or nothin. I’m not a Watson basher, but last night was bad all around except for the Blackshirts. Oh well, beat the Buffs. GBR.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Better Off Red
posting a possible rumor that Taylor Martinez has left the team. Anyone here care to substantiate or reply? Apparently this no doubt would tie to the Pelini dressing down on the sideline where he reportedly said, ""If you f____ call your dad on the f____ field during a game again it’ll be the last f_____ thing you ever do. Now get your f______ a__ [out/down/out of?] here mother f_____."
don't know but there is a much worse rumor hitting the boards
about TM may no longer part of the team…
This could turn into a nightmare real fast
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
go to any of the other husker boards on Scout or Rivals or the main page of the Rivals CFB boards
I pretty much refuse to direct link to another message board from here out of respect to CN and SBN. Trust me… It won’t be hard to find.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Here's the most "definitive" source...
Some guy named “Tony George” (not the former quarterback) claiming to be out of Kansas City…
http://pregame.com/forums/forums/t/139384.aspx
But the buzz is growing rather loud, so there definitely is some smoke…
this
all smacks to me of people hunting for web hits.
Here’s the thing – Pelini gets in Martinez’ face – and the next most logical conclusion is to come up with a rumor that he’s left the team. Next, we’ll hear that Pelini has been suspended or fired.
And all of it is immediately more believable because of what we saw on TV last night.
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by Jon Johnston on Nov 21, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
I have it on good authority
from my mom’s coworker’s son who attended the rival high school of Tom Osborne that Pelini has not only been fired.
by George W. Beadle on Nov 21, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
If all of this is true, I'm honestly not that concerned.
Bo went overboard, but if a player is such a prima dona that he can’t handle getting chewed out I’m not certain that he has business leading a football team. There have been numerous things that have rubbed me the wrong way about Martinez since the fans anointed him the second coming of Christ and there have been rumblings of his attitude to somewhat substantiate those feelings.
It would hurt the rest of this season (well, actually I’m not sure it would since he can barely walk on his ankle anyway) but the team started with a freshman QB this year, so I guess they could just start over again? I hope this is unsubstantiated and I hate to condemn a kid’s character on the internet, but with some of TM’s comments to the press I have never been completely comfortable with his attitude. If he couldn’t stand “not being able to lead HIS team” then I think that he will be able to overcome one butt chewing – I’m going to guess nothing comes of this, even if there was an initial fire that created all of this smoke.
by George W. Beadle on Nov 21, 2010 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
i would be more concerned over the idea that
Bo was interfering with the idea of TM getting advice from his family regarding a medical matter…
That is a big big NONO in both the NCAA and any universities eyes
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I'm guessing, from other rumors, that the coaches don't view him contacting his dad as a medical consultation.
But you are right.
by George W. Beadle on Nov 21, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
if it is anything remotely regarding a medical consultation
Bo is gone…
There is no way out of that dark hole after the Mangion and Leach witchhunts
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I've been told...
Take this for what it’s worth, anonymous source and all; Carl is done for the year and Bo’s out for Friday.
I trust my source, but I wouldn’t put it past him to be fed sour information.
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I nominate: The Pelini Pallooza F/Bomb Serenade of Taylor Martinez.
oh hail the Purple and White
Penalties in Perspective - from an Aggie fan
All who are yelling about how the Big 12 refs hate Nebraska need to realize this:
Nebraska received the bulk of its calls on procedural penalties. Kyle Field was ROCKING Saturday night (I was there contributing to the 12th Man), and the Huskers, not to mention the refs, couldn’t hear themselves think! I agree that a couple of the personal foul calls were “questionable,” but the officials missed a few against y’all too. I think for the most part, they were doing the best they could in the atmosphere they were working in. And by the way, I am very impressed with the way Husker fans showed up to this game—great turnout guys! Every Nebraska fan I had a chance to talk to was super. Aside from the Pelini’s, you guys are really a class act. Julie – Fighting Texas Aggie Class of ’97
by Julie B. Svetlik on Nov 22, 2010 10:41 AM CST reply actions
The whole "they missed a few on NU as well"
Doesn’t fly with me. They called quite a few on NU, and NONE on ATM.
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