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Corn Flakes: Day after Mizzou

Well that was a fun game.

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Nebraska beat Missouri without their quarterback in the second half, you may remember last year some Missouri fans concluded that the injury to Gabbert was the reason MU lost last year. And Nebraska lost Dennard our best CB?) early. So you'd like to think that Missouri had their chances.

I've had my issues with Cotton of late, but outstanding job yesterday. In addition outstanding offense play calling. Watson and Pelini always preach about being "multiple". You want multiple? How about 323 yards passing last game, 307 rushing by Helu yesterday, and 150 and 137 passing and rushing against Washington. Multiple in attack, and multiple in personal. You tell me who do you want to stop, cause that opens up someone else.

Huskers unveil different look on the defensive front

What the Pelinis did Saturday was stand up defensive end Cameron Meredith and move him off the line of scrimmage. When Nebraska had Missouri in obvious passing situations, the Huskers went back to a four-man line to create a pass rush. Otherwise Meredith was playing like a linebacker, bouncing from side to side.

Some Tiger fans were here posting about what Nebraska would have to do to beat Missouri. CNers decided that Missouri in fact had no weaknesses, but getting pressure on Gabbert without blitzing was a key for a Nebraska win. Great coaching.

Steven M. Sipple: Bo Pelini had NU ready to rumble

Pelini and his staff took Pinkel and his coaches to the proverbial woodshed. Just look at the first quarter. Nebraska clearly was better prepared than Mizzou. The Huskers burst from the chute with a hard edge. Pelini unveiled a three-man defensive front for the first time this season and had quarterback Blaine Gabbert on the run on the very first play from scrimmage. He never found his rhythm. He seemed discombobulated. Same goes for Pinkel's entire crew.

Nebraska won the coaching matchup.

Nebraska Beats Mizzou: The Links - Rock M Nation

Is it cheating if I just post Rock M's links? I'll say no.

Scout.com: CFN Analysis - Nebraska 31 ... Missouri 17

Well, Helu!
Well hi!

You know I have more! You want some? Come get some!

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Rivals.com College Football - Winners and losers: MSU, Missouri fall

Pelini said Martinez is OK - Omaha.com

Nebraska coach Bo Pelini said quarterback Taylor Martinez suffered a bone bruise on his right leg and X-rays were negative, but that the redshirt freshman was OK despite sitting out the second half Saturday.

Tigers', Spartans' doomed insurgencies come full circle - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF  - Yahoo! Sports

Husker Mike's Blasphemy: Missouri Can't Overcome Helu, Blackshirts, and Pinkel

Big 12 helmet stickers: Week 9 - Big 12 Blog - ESPN

Roy Helu Jr., RB, Nebraska: Let's just give Helu like six of these. The senior running back had the best day of any other runner in college football this season, rolling for 307 yards on 28 carries, including three scores of 50 yards or longer in Nebraska's 31-17 win over Missouri. For a program known for running the ball, the significance of Helu's school record wasn't lost on anyone in Lincoln on Saturday.

Barfknecht: Same old Pinkel, same old Mizzou - Omaha.com

The "American Society of Second-Guessers’’ heartily thanks Missouri coach Gary Pinkel for his work in Saturday’s 31-17 loss to Nebraska.

Is he upset that Nebraska won?

Chatelain: Energy returns to the old, gray lady - Omaha.com

What we learned in the Big 12: Week 9 - Big 12 Blog - ESPN

The Big 12 North is Nebraska's to lose. The Huskers made sure of that early, unleashing one of the most dominant quarters by any team in Big 12 play this season. Missouri didn't fall in a 24-0 hole early, Nebraska dug that thing with a week of preparation, and once the Tigers showed up (or didn't show up) the Huskers grabbed them by the collar and threw them in. From a wide-angle lens, though, Nebraska's win is good for drama in the North. Had Missouri won, it would need to lose three of its final four games to send Nebraska to the title game. Now, one slip-up by Nebraska could put the Tigers in. The Huskers' toughest test is likely a trip to College Station, but this is college football; anything can happen. And fret not, Tigers. Regardless of what Nebraska does the rest of the year, Missouri is in decent position to go 11-1 in the regular season if they can survive Lubbock next weekend. That's nothing to complain about. I'm sure there will be a few people who rush to proclaim Missouri got "exposed," but they ran into a motivated team that played its best and, without a flat performance against Texas, would still be very much in the thick of the national title picture.

Yep work left to do.

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Great game

The d-line and o-line played really well. It was refreshing to see the d-line get some pressure and be a disrupting force. Gabbert was harassed from the beginning to the end. The loss of Dennard was scary to me but his replacement didn’t miss a beat, very impressive freshman the future looks good. I was at the game so I was wondering what the injury was and how long he’ll be out? And what else can you say about Helu and the o-line except TOTAL DOMINATION!!!!!!! Congrats to Helu for the new record it is nice to see him have success after his struggles to stay healthy.

by Huzkerfan on Oct 31, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe someone has already covered this

but what was the ruling on the hit on gabbert by courtney osborne? I mean, they didn’t call a penalty, Gabbert obviously fumbled….something has to be called right? They just acted like nothing happened and went on about the game…looking for insight.

by Ceek on Oct 31, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

They ruled that his forward progress was stopped

And yes, that’s full of as much BS as it sounds.

Twitter: awolfson0

by awolfson on Oct 31, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

basically they just ignored the rules of football

I’m sorry, that really pisses me off, I can see missing subjective calls, but the guy obviously fumbled, and it seemed to me that they just let them keep the ball because their player got tattooed by Osborne…kind of a consolation prize.

by Ceek on Oct 31, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can

watch the hit on youtube. Ed Cunningham can keep his opinions about refing to himself what a blow hard. Gabbert had been scrambling with some success all day, what was Courtney supposed to do ask him to lie down?? MIZ ZOU got their asses kicked all day. THE BELL IS OURS TO KEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Huzkerfan on Nov 1, 2010 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is incredibly ridiculous

So ridiculous that I don’t recall anyone even mentioning it live on air…it seemed like the ABC crew just ignored it and moved it…Where did you find the call?

by KC Gunner on Nov 1, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am scared to what concussions may do to CF...

But Osborne’s hit wasn’t as “bad” as Martin’s last week, and it is all due to intent. To me, it comes down to the adage “see what you are tackling” On that play, Osborne was totally unaccounted for until the very last second when Gabbert, who was standing almost fully upright, finally saw him. And what happened was that Gabbert, as anyone would do, lowers his body in an attempt to juke/brace for Osborne. Well, Osborne was going for the chest, not the head, but when Gabbert lowered his body, his head was now where his chest was before Gabbert saw Osborne, ergo the hit.

If Gabbert actually never saw Osborne, this would have happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8SvrkTlXoA&feature=player_embedded

You will see, its the exact same hit, just in this case, Harris stood tall in the pocket (never saw the UVa defender) and the hit landed in his chest, not his head. If Harris would have noticed the UVa player just before the hit, he probably would have lowered his torso too, and it would have been a head-2-head collision.

Martin’s head was going for the head, so I agreed with the suspension, but hard to really fault Osborne on that play. Very unfortunate, yes, but I dunno what else he or Gabbert could have done.

by meatybob on Oct 31, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It amazes me how fixated Mizzou fans and writers have been on that call

Considering the refs could very, very easily have allowed a Nebraska touchdown. All I’ve read about it has been “HELMET-TO-HELMET THAT WAS BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” without even so much as an acknowledgement that there was a plain-as-day fumble by Gabbert that was returned for a touchdown by Nebraska.

I don’t have access to the replay, so I can’t go and look at the hit again, but it seemed clear to me at the time that a) there was some helmet-to-helmet contact; and b) it wasn’t anywhere near intentional or leading with the helmet. What’s the rule in college football – is any helmet-to-helmet contact on the quarterback a penalty, or does there have to be leading with the helmet or intent? Because that seems key to me in whether a penalty should have been called.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 31, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is mind-blowing

how much they have fixated on that call without acknowledging the fumble and TD return that should have been allowed to stand. Oh well — guess they have to delude themselves somehow.

by KC Gunner on Nov 1, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Got to give Mizzou this...

1. The hands for their receiving corps are wonderful. Still can’t believe what they would able to bring down.

2. Mizzou’s D is not overly fast or athletic, but they do tackle well. Not alot of missed tackles, but huge gaping holes for Helu to run thru.

by meatybob on Oct 31, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I think the holes on defense

Were not really because of a lack of speed or athleticism, but because they were totally keyed on stopping Martinez.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 31, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The local Missouri writers are really going to town on the officials

I read 5 different game commentaries and every single one of them mentioned the missed facemask call on the goal line (as if that half yard penalty would have made all the difference in the world) and the “cheap shot with intent to injure” that Osborne laid on Gabbert. They just can’t bring themselves to admit that they got their asses kicked by a better team.

On Osborne’s hit, what EXACTLY does the rule say about it? Mizzou fans have been howling about it since it happened yesterday, but I have NEVER seen a flag thrown on a play like that. Especially when looking at the replay, it’s completely Gabbert’s fault that h2h occurred. He lowered his helmet into harms way right before impact.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Oct 31, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, I read that Miklasz column

I always knew he was a douchenozzle. But now he’s a douchenozzle who can apparently read Courtney Osbourne’s mind.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 31, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn’t read your comment, but actually posted the same question just above. For various reasons (the hard NFL hits lately, Martin’s suspension last week, head injury concerns, etc.), people have gotten incredibly entitled recently when it comes to penalties on hits to the quarterback. Hard but clean hits didn’t get a second glance two or three years ago; now fans feel like they’re owed a 15-yarder every time somebody gets in a decent shot at the QB.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 31, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Considering Gabbert landed on the 1 yd line...

and gaining a 1st down in the process, the facemask penalty would have gained them 1/2 of a yard. Maybe that is enough for a TD there, but Mizzou would have still been down by 10 at that point.

I don’t think it was Gabbert’s fault for reacting like he did, I think any player would, but no, I don’t think that Osborne’s hit was meanspirited. Never left his feet, he as looking at Gabbert all the way, looked like he was going to tackle thru the chest. Doesn’t seem like he ever intended to go after the head, Gabbert just seems like he moved his body down to make a play, then bam.

It does suck in a way as it dampens a great win all around.

by meatybob on Oct 31, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't have been enough for a TD

because they called Crick for an offsides penalty, putting the ball at the same spot it would have been had the facemask penalty been called – they still couldn’t score. Additionally, the replay on the offsides clearly showed a Missouri OL jumping for a false start but the penalty was inaccurately called on Crick.

by George W. Beadle on Oct 31, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

If anything, Mizzou got a couple extra shots from inside the 1 that they didn’t deserve. Funny how the pundits don’t think that deserves a mention, eh?

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by awolfson on Oct 31, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Easy to blame the refs

The fact of the matter is that even if the refs had given Mizzou every questionable call, they’d have still lost the game. I understand the sour grapes when there’s one big call that swings the game one way or the other, but yesterday? It just smacks of bitterness.

Twitter: awolfson0

by awolfson on Oct 31, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Osborne's hit and the kickoffs

First off, Osborne’s hit. Yes, it was as bad as Martin’s, but here’s the difference. Martin hit a defenseless player who didn’t even have the ball, and was at least 10 yards away from the ball. There is NO reason to hit that player at all, much less that hard
Gabbert on the other hand still had the football in his hands. No, it isn’t “nice” to hit him like that, and had he thrown it away before getting hit, it would have undoubtedly been a roughing the passer, but the difference is that he still had the ball, no it wasn’t nice, but there was at least a reason to hit him. Martin just hit a random innocent player who didn’t have the ball and wasn’t even that close to it.

And secondly, what the hell was with the kickoffs? We deferred to receive the second half, and yet we kicked off to start the second half as well… I’ve never seen a team kick off to start BOTH halves. Not sure what was up with that.

by Scott430 on Oct 31, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Captain's mistake

We won the toss and our captain thought saying “we’ll kick” meant the same thing as deferring to the second half.

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Oct 31, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be honest

It didn’t turn out to be that big of an “oops.” With the way our defense was playing, Mizzou just got three and outs, punted it to Nebraska who got the ball on their own 35-40 instead of around the 20. Not bad eh?

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Oct 31, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

we all say it's not that big of an oops

I’d hate to see the things we’d be saying today if we’d lost and the same shenanigans had occurred.

by Ceek on Oct 31, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

True enough

"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne

by jdhusker on Oct 31, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Martin hit a defenseless player

So every single player on every single play is defenseless now? That is possibly the dumbest take anybody has had on the Martin hit. :::beating dead horse deader:::

I apologize for singling you out, considering how many other people have said the same thing, but there is not one player (with exception to the kicker) on kickoff coverage that is defenseless. The defender’s job is to tackle the ball carrier, everyone else on the return team’s job is to stop defenders from tackling the ball carrier. “Keep your head on a swivel” is the number 2 priority of anyone on the coverage team. The kid got caught with tunnel vision and paid the price, it wasn’t dirty, it wasn’t malicious, and most coaches would praise Martin for the play.

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by Screwface on Oct 31, 2010 5:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thank

you for correcting the completely ignorant statement.

by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 31, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Hopefully now that we’ve beaten Mizzou we can put this Martin saga to bed.

Twitter: awolfson0

by awolfson on Oct 31, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

You’re right that it is our players job to stop the opposing team from tackling our ball carrier.

However, diving at a player’s helmet at a full sprint isn’t the way to do it. That’s how people get injured playing football.

Had it been “just a block” yea, it would be fine, but there is no reason to dive at someones helmet at a full sprint unless you’re trying to kill them, and it’s certainly not OK when the person being blocked isn’t even near the ball carrier. A block would have sufficed, no reason to try and knock the opponent out of the game. That’s a dirty playing style, and it’s unfortunate that I have to watch my favorite team play dirty, especially one which prides itself on playing clean, traditional, respectful football.

by Scott430 on Oct 31, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh

thumbs down! Martin’s block was as traditional, clean, and pure as football ever was.

by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 31, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

http://search.dilbert.com/search?w=beating+dead+horse

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by theise on Nov 1, 2010 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, let's try that again

Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. - Mark Crispin

by theise on Nov 1, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

This time for sure!

Dilbert

Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. - Mark Crispin

by theise on Nov 1, 2010 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Roy Helu

Has always been one of my favorite Huskers on this team, and with yesterday’s game, he put himself up among my favorite Huskers ever.

The guy has been an absolute soldier. When you think about it, he may be the only guy in the program right now who has turned in four seasons of legitimately good play, dating all the way back to the Callahan era. He was one of the few sparks of life during that miserable 2007 season, then blossomed into a solid starter in ’08 and ’09.

He’s seen his number of carries come and go, depending on what the defense is keying on and whether the holes are there for him. But every time they need him to come up huge, he does, and never bigger than yesterday. Superstar types like Taylor Martinez might grab the headlines, but it’s guys like Roy Helu that build an elite football program from the bottom up.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 31, 2010 4:43 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

That's exactly my feelings as well.

Roy is my favorite player on the team and I love the way he plays football.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 31, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check this gem out, from his Twitter

“Getting e-mails from Nebraska fans today. I feel sorry for ’em; they put a lot of effort into these things but I auto delete w/o reading”

https://twitter.com/#!/miklasz

Twitter: awolfson0

by awolfson on Oct 31, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea

he called osborne’s hit on gabbert “helmet to helmet with intent to injure”.

by Ceek on Oct 31, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to understand how he could misspell that.

I mean, I could see how a Nebraskan could, with all those rings weighing the fingers down. It makes it hard to type.

:)

by EricMedic on Oct 31, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

it’s actually mpfische, our resident Mizzou troll..

by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 31, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't near a computer during the game, so I missed the game thread. Forgive me if I repeat the same things that have been said by everyone already.

I had a feeling that the line play, and specifically the d-line, would be the deciding factor in this game, and on Saturday the guys made me look smart. The o-line opened gapimg holes, and the d-line wreaked a helluva lot of havoc. I knew these guys were talented, and I’m glad they decided to play like it this week.

Roy Helu is amazing. I don’t really think I need to say anything else about that.

The Osborne hit was a penalty, but it wasn’t dirty. Gabbert braced for the hit and Osborne’s helmet slid up his body. Comparing that to Martin’s hit is just stupid.

While I’m talking about hits, was it just me or did the defender “lead with his helmet” on the hit that knocked Taylor out? From what I remember, the defender dived at Taylor’s legs and hit him in the leg with the top of his helmet. Cunningham railed on again about the Osborne hit like he did about Martin, yet he didn’t say anything about that hit. He didn’t hit Taylor’s helmet, but he did lead with his helmet (which is what Martin was suspended for) and struck him in the leg which can be extremely dangerous.

I hated seeing Fonzo go out, but Ciante Evans stepped up big-time and played very well from what I could tell. I can see why the kid is playing as a true freshman.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Oct 31, 2010 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought about that Martinez hit as leading with the helmet too

But pretty much as a joke. If hits like that start drawing personal fouls, then I’m just going to find it hard to watch football anymore.

by Cheeseandcorn on Nov 1, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too.

I just remember hearing Martin was suspended for “leading with the crown of his helmet” (not helmet to helmet), and it looked like the Mizzou player “lead with the crown of his helmet” and “targeted” as Cunningham likes to say.

Extend Jared Dudley!

by Omaha Sun on Nov 1, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea he did lead with his helmet, but that’s helmet to leg contact. Nobody really cares about that. It’s helmet to helmet that can end in severe concussions, as well as neck and spinal injuries. A bruised leg or an upper ankle fracture people can get over in a week or two. A neck injury, you can’t, and a severe concussion like the one from the Martin hit will take months to get over. That’s why helmet to helmet will be illegal soon, and helmet to leg (or any other part of the body) won’t be.

by Scott430 on Nov 1, 2010 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

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