What concerns you the most about the loss to Texas?
by Billgrip on Oct 18, 2010 11:47 AM CDT
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Print[Bumped from Fanposts - mostly because I was thinking the same thing - Who is leading this team????? - Jon J]
We all saw it. We are all still asking this question. Obviously, it's really hard to stomach this loss, and I think my personal biggest concern going forward is that our players are going to lose motivation, because it seemed like their entire motivation for this season was built on beating Texas.
I am really afraid that the loss to Texas hurt their pride so much, that they could fall into a "What's the point?" mentality and 2010 will turn into 2007 fast. What this years team needs is a leader, a guy who we know will rally the troops both on the field and off the field. In 2007 the team really lacked a specific player who was a leader on and off the field, that combined with poor coaching led to a 5-7 season.
But last year the leader of the team was Ndamukong Suh. He was the best player on the field, and after a loss, his opinion was the first one you wanted to hear as a fan, and most likely as a player. Who's that guy this season? The guy who says, "We are better than this" and then backs it up on the field?
Niles Paul? Jared Crick? Prince Amukamera? Alex Henery? We know it isn't Taylor Martinez, he plays like a leader but doesn't have the personality needed to really rally the team. He won't even talk to the media and his teammates say he's the same way in the locker room. We know it can't be Zac Lee, he doesn't even get to play. It's not Roy Helu Jr. We have plenty of guys who are talented and could step up to be the team leader, but it seems like no one is. Someone better step up soon because with the next two games coming against top 15 teams, this team needs a leader now more than ever.
With that being said, what is your biggest concern after the loss to Texas going forward?
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Sweet, thanks for bumping this. I’m hoping this leadership thing becomes more clear by next Saturday. I’m very interested to see the results of the poll question with a lot of votes.
Our receivers can't catch the ball
By far my biggest concern is that our receivers didn’t catch the ball. We have a multiple offense, if the run doesn’t work- pass and vice versa. If we can’t do one we’re going to be one dimensional and may lose a couple more games. Taylor and Zac were on target, everyone remembers that coach speak, “if it hits you in the hands you can catch it.” The best catch a Husker receiver made during that game was Kyler Reed’s sideline grab that Mack Brown had the officials call incomplete. Granted we didn’t need to punt so quickly with the clock stopped. So yeah, that’s it- catch the ball and we’re undefeated. Drop the ball and we may lose a couple more.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Hey, come on, now: those officials DERPed that up all by theyselves.
I’m not so upset with the call on the field – that was a tough play to call in real time. Lack of a good review really hurt us there, as did the quick punting trigger. Of course Mack’s going to lobby for an incompletion on a questionable catch on his own sideline – you’d expect Bo to do the same thing if the sides were reversed.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
We have had the same issues and look where that got us...two losses.
Not saying that is the fate of the huskers but it should definitely be a concern. At least you have a dual threat QB that can make plays with his feet…granted that did not happen Saturday. Texas has a possibly the best secondary in the country and allowed us to load the box. I don’t think the huskers are going to run into a better secondary this year and I predict yall right the ship and are in the Big 12 title game. Good luck with the rest of yalls season!
ATX
Thanks for the well wishes
But I have to disagree on the secondary thing. I was very impressed with Texas’s front 7 and not at all impressed with their secondary. What allowed UT to crowd the line wasn’t lockdown coverage in the secondary, it was NU receivers who had beaten the coverage dropping sure touchdown passes. I don’t think that everyone would be calling the UT secondary’s effort superb if they had surrendered the three touchdown passes they should have. The “secret” to UT’s defensive success, quite simply was an NU receivers corps who left 20some points and around half our total yardage on the field.
For all of our faults, Nebraska has the best secondary in the country. No one has been able to throw worth a lick on us all year, and that includes Mr. Gilbert who finally had a competent running game backing him up.
All that said, UT still deserved to win, as their players didn’t make ridiculous mistakes on very simple moments of execution.
"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne
Agreed
as ‘Horns fan, i too have concerns on our secondary play all year. Hitting and tackling wise, i think they Texas’ secondary is probably one of the best groups in the country. Coverage wise, i think Nebraska’s group is the best.
Prince and Dennard are amazing. Your weak link is Thenarse…that guy simply cannot tackle and allowed some a lot of yardage after contact.
After watching the game again, the dropped pass by burkhead was actually a blown coverage by one of our LB’s. the dropped pass by paul was actually covered well by one of our safeties but the ball was thrown well but paul just missed it. The dropped pass by kinnie was probably the only one that we had a DB on the play and he was beat.
other than the above, our secondary played a pretty solid game i think. Both secondaries were pretty awesome on Saturday though.
These are good points.
If you’re emphasizing tackling, you’d be hard-pressed to beat Texas for the best secondary in the country. For coverage, it’s Nebraska, no question.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 18, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Very true
Hands down Nebraska has the best coverage in the country.
How about front 7, is Texas the best?
by jtdiddy on Oct 18, 2010 3:46 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Nebraska would probably say so
UCLA might argue otherwise. Boise State and TCU probably have a pretty case, though.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 18, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
Everyone can agree that Texas at least mentally, was a different team on Saturday than against UCLA. Their front seven is very, very good.
"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne
Dunno about that
Boise only played two decent offenses and they gave up 30 & 24 respectively and far from dominant.
TCU also gave up 21 to Oregon St. and SMU moved the ball on them pretty consistently and also put up 28 on them.
by jtdiddy on Oct 18, 2010 5:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
Texas’ secondary was very suspect! The safeties were playing run support the entire game, both Taylor and Zac missed some reads with Kyler Reed and Mike McNeil that could’ve gone for great yardage or even 6. McNeil came off of the field once and “grabbed” Bo and let him know about the poor reads and the lack of coverage on some stick-nods. Go back on DVR, Bo just raised his hands like, “We can’t go back and do it over..”
Lee repeatedly checked down far too quick and I think Taylor got yanked because he was losing confidence in the receivers (I think that led to the grounder in front of Paul, he didn’t want to lead him and have him miss it again).
by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 18, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.. Hard to Choose..
You got that right Cheeseandcorn! Most of those items are important. I think the poor tackling, and especially the lack of wrapping up by Thenarse over and over again probably bothered me the most. A good defense just does not tackle that way. It was almost like he forgot he has arms! But every item on there is huge.
As for the dropped balls, I can’t help but think that the Huskers were just uptight. That’s one of those weird games where they may have been better off not being at home. Man.. there were some stone hands out there though. It was killer.
This team is going to be severely tested vs. OSU.
As for leadership
I’d like to see the O-line play that role, step in for the passive skill players and just refuse to lose the battle in trenches.
I really like Helu, and I think he’s much, much more likely to step into that leadership void than, say, Niles Paul. Despite the knack for the incredibly ill-timed fumble, I think he’s a really consistent, steady presence for the offense, and that could come in extremely handy in a few games this season.
I'm thinking Mike Caputo and Roy Helu.
Niles is a head case at this point – that was obvious from the sideline shots toward the end of the game. I generally trust the walk-ons to kick some ass when the chips are down, and I’m hoping Caputo can deliver on that score.
I think you’re being a little hard on Zac Lee, Billgrip. Obviously, he’s not Taylor Martinez, but think of how easily Lee and Green could have developed into cancers after losing to a guy who ran the scout team offense half the time last year. Lee in particular has impressed me by being supportive and making the most of his opportunity on Saturday – that kind of attitude and effort pays dividends in the long run.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Zac Lee
I think he can’t be really the leader unless he’s out there on the field making the plays. The guys who are out on the field are obviously going to know more about what’s going on than the guys who aren’t. I think if Zac Lee were out there he would definitely be the leader, mostly because the QB is the leader on the field naturally due to the nature of the position, and if he’s not a huge introvert like Taylor Martinez is then he can probably be the leader off the field too.
Honestly, I want Zac Lee as our QB. He’s average at the zone read, but he brings confidence and an arm that will force opposing defenses to defend against the pass. That in turn would open up opportunities for Helu and Burkhead, who have already proven that they are very good running backs.
I’m not advocating putting Taylor on the bench though. He’s way too fast and talented to waste away. I think for the rest of this season Taylor should play as a slot receiver, and give him some spot QB time running the zone read with an occasional pass or two. That would be a nightmare to plan against as a defense because you have to plan for a QB that is better at passing than running but can still run and a QB that is better at running than passing but can still pass. And if Martinez is in as a receiver, just give him a quick pass to the side and let his “low 4.4” speed make a guy miss and then he’ll be gone. We could keep him as a homerun threat without even requiring a perfectly executed blocking scheme.
That’s just my crazy idea, and I’m probably wrong…but just some food for thought.
I agree that Zac Lee needs more of a presence in the offense
Just the threat of a passing quarterback completely opened up our offense when he stepped into the game. Perhaps bringing in Martinez in Wildcat/dual threat roles while having Lee as the primary quarterback? I just think that Lee is too experienced (and successful) to let him sit, no matter how talented (and raw) Martinez may be.
Another thing I want to know
All season we’ve been under the impression that Watson has this infinitely deep playbook that he was just waiting to unleash against a good defense. What I saw on Saturday looked like the same plays we’ve seen all season only against a team that could actually defend it. The Zone read works wonders against an out-matched defense…but we’re going to have to get more creative against good defenses and IF we get to play Oklahoma in the Big 12 championship. (IF) Where’s the creativity, Watson?
I was extremely dissapointed with this as well.
I was of the same school, where we hadn’t opened up the playbook because we hadn’t had to..obviously we were all sorely mistaken.
Question on Watson...
Just wanted to know what is the overall opinion of Watson in husker land?
I think we all know how Texas fans feel about Greg Davis…
by jtdiddy on Oct 18, 2010 5:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
the opinion on watson is directly
related to whether we’re winning or losing, it can change that drastically at any given time around where i’m from. Personally I’ve defended him in the past, and i’m not going to jump ship on him after one loss, he’s forgotten far more about football than I could ever hope to know, so i’ll continue to give him the benefit of the doubt…no telling how long that will last though.
I think overall the opinion is positive at this point.
We were pretty negative last year, but not a lot was said about how decimated we were by injuries during the season. But I was disappointed with Saturday’s effort as well. It seemed pretty unimaginative to me. Of course, with better execution and fewer dropped passes we’d all be a lot happier, and feeling better about Wats as well.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Got to be the fumbles.
Since it has been a concern all year. Personally, I think the drops are more of a “Texas psyche” thing than a “fundamentals” concern. 5 fumbles, and while Neb only lost (a massive) one, the other four caused a loss of down and yardage. Absolutely cannot do that against good D, when you need all the opportunities a team can have.
The drops played a bigger role in Neb losing the UT game, but the fumbling issues can kill the season. Fix those, and I think Neb. is fine till OU. If not, HELLO SHREVEPORT!!!!
I'm actually worried about motivation issues/Memorial Stadium
We haven’t been ourselves at all at home this year. And that’s really disturbing. We’d better be on our toes in two weeks when Mizzou comes calling in our battle for the North.
"My hardest job is to convince the people of Nebraska that 10-1 is not a losing season." - Tom Osborne
Seconded
The skill players seem to get a little full of themselves in front of the home crowd.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Oct 19, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I went ahead and charted all the balls thrown by TM.
3-8 @ the 6:50 mark of the 1st Q. TM stares down the receiver the whole time, Gideon makes the pass breakup
1-10 @ the 6:50 mark of the 1st Q. TM completes to Paul on WR screen.
1-10 @ the 1:35 mark of the 1st Q. TM incomplete to Paul. Play action, no one around Paul and TM throws behind him. One of Paul’s "drops".
3-6 @ the 1:35 mark of the 1st Q. TM completes to Paul. Short pass that Paul turns into a big gain by breaking a tackle
2-12 @ the 15:00 mark of the 2nd Q. TM incomplete to Burkhead. Straight up drop of a TD by Burkhead on a wheel route. Over the shoulder catch that should not have been dropped.
3-18 @ the 12:19 mark of the 2nd Q. TM complete to Paul. WR screen again, good blocking out front.
2-8 @ the 7:58 mark of the 2nd Q. TM complete to Paul for 20 yards. Play action pass with no one around Paul. Paul has to stretch to make the catch instead of getting it in stride and falls to the turf.
2-15 @ the 6:06 mark of the 2nd Q. TM incomplete to Paul. Paul singled up 1 on 1 with the corner. TM makes the right read and leads him to the inside. As he tries to adjust and slips the ball goes through Paul’s hands. 2nd of Paul’s "drops". Sun may have been a factor. Should have been caught but you see this happen often with WRs on this type of ball.
3-15 @ the 5:58 mark of the 2nd Q. TM incomplete to Kinnie. TM throws the ball behind Kinnie.
3-5 @ the 3:05 mark of the 2nd Q. TM incomplete to Kinnie. TM throws into a crowd of defenders that had Kinnie bracketed under and over the top.
1-10 @ the 8:52 mark of the 3rd Q. TM incomplete to Paul. TM throws down and away from Paul, not a catchable ball.
3-6 @ the 8:02 mark of the 3rd Q. TM incomplete to Reed. TM throws up and away from Paul, Reed makes the circus catch that should have been reviewed but wasn’t. If the ball is placed in the right location, easy first down catch.
People are getting upset with receiving corps, which is justified, but are glossing over the fact that TM was not accurate on Saturday. There were several times that the receiver made a great catch on a ball that if thrown to the right spot would have been a huge gain after the catch. Take the Paul 20 yard gain in the 2nd Q as an example. If that ball was thrown on target it may have been a TD instead of just a 20 yard gain. Same with Paul’s 1st “drop”. If that pass is on target there is no one around him in a 10 yard circle.
The drops are upsetting, but the ball has to be delivered at the right place on time.
TM is young and will improve over time, but he was the cause of the poor passing game as much or more than his receivers.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Oct 18, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Excellent breakdown!
But if the receivers and backs caught balls that hit them in the hands the chains will continue to move.
It would be interesting to breakdown Lee’s pass attempts also. I know Niles missed a second one at the 5 that probably would’ve been 6; in addition to the other one that he missed from TM. Oh, and the one he missed in the end zone. From my observation, here are the ones we missed:
Burkhead- wheel route, with no one around (perfect ball placement)
Paul- 1 on 1, through his arms at the 5, good defense (good ball placement)
Paul- End zone drop, defender behind him (good ball placement)
Paul- Drop at the UT 5 with no one around (good placement, could’ve been led)
Kinnie- Drop at the UT 4 on a post, beat the defender inside (perfect pattern, perfect ball placement)
by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 18, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm kind of surprised
By how many people are voting for the bottom one. That’s pretty sad…I think this is why you should never emphasize beating one team so much, regardless of the history of the series or what happened the previous season. Every season is a new season and every game is a new game…anything can happen. Nebraska fans should have viewed it as us being 0-0 vs. Texas in 2010, and now we are 0-1 against Texas in 2010. Bummer, but move on to the next game and the good news is that we are still 5-1. Not too shabby.
Also, I think it’s easy to blame the receivers for dropping obvious touchdown passes, but I really think that Roy Helu’s fumble was the worst thing that happened because it made us go down 10-0 early in the 1st quarter. That really can take the gas out of a team.
The good news about our receivers dropping passes and our fumbles is that those sorts of things can be fixed. There’s really nothing that we did wrong in this game that can’t be fixed. For the first time in nearly a decade we didn’t lose to Texas because they were just a better team…we lost just because we beat ourselves.
Where is the "No Real Leader" Option
The dropped balls are a big concern for me, but not my biggest concern. WHO IS OUR LEADER? The fanpost (article) says it perfectly, there is no one to turn too. If the players feel like most of the fans do, next week could be a HUGE letdown game. It was a tough loss that shouldn’t have happened. NU did not get outplayed, but let a few key mistakes take away a victory. It is depressing and tough to get over. Who is the leader on this team that gets everyone fired up and over the loss? Who tells the team that the Big 12 Title is still on the line?
Not knowing who this person is makes this Saturday even more scary. If we had a true leader, I wouldn’t feel so bad. Right now, however,…..???
It was a total lack of effort on the hole team not just dropped balls!
It was sad to see this team loss this game. However Nebraska still has a great chance to win out and take the Big 12 title with them and make a BCS bowl. they still can beat Missouri and take the bell with them and best of all they still have a shot at Oklahoma if Oklahoma wins out,here is to hoping.
Who knows they might still get a shot at Texas shorthorns again. My self I would prefer a shot at a undefeated Oklahoma than a 2 loss Texas team. So what do you think about that.
Donald Ray Hammond Sr.
by drayflyer@yahoo.com on Oct 18, 2010 4:20 PM CDT reply actions
Playing Oklahoma would be the "Story-book" ending.
But I wouldn’t mind one last shot at Texas…I really think our team would respond well to playing them one more time and I think they wouldn’t make the same mistakes. It would be like the 1999 season…our one loss was to Texas but we took it to them in the Big 12 championship.
First thing’s first though…we need to survive the next two weeks and then just not have a big choke game after that.
I'm probably gonna get murdered for this..
but, I am getting sick of seeing Pelini screaming on the sidelines..I love the passion, and don’t get me wrong, there is a time and a place for that, but personally, I don’t see how any of our quarterbacks are going to nurse any confidence with a hot head like that on the sidelines waiting to kill them should they mess up. To me, it’s not an atmosphere that is conducive to success.
I thought Bo was relatively calm on Saturday given the circumstances
I’m not crazy about it (I think most everybody would much prefer Dr. Tom’s approach, but we also know he’s a once-in-a-lifetime kind of coach), but I have no idea what’s going on behind the scenes, before and after games, at practices, etc. We just don’t know enough to judge.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 18, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
are you saying that tom was a once in a lifetime coach
or bo is? Just hard to tell without voice inflections…stupid internet :)
Oh, but Tom could get after the refs, too.
Maybe not as forefully as Bo, and certainly without the profanity, but Tom wasn’t afraid to let the zebras know they’d missed a call in his opinion.
I think Bo’s hitting about the right tone this season. Let’s think about this: he’s not Mangino by any stretch of the imagination. Players love playing for him – he’s fair, honest and seems to have the players’ benefit in mind first and foremost.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
The non-review
There was a call where the Nebraska player was not out of bounds, but it was called incomplete. After that play the punt team came out so quickly and kicked the ball. At that point, I felt that the game was over. I felt that the coaches had quit. They didn’t even take the time to make a decision about reviewing the play. That scared me the most.
yeah... when I was doing the TM QB charting I realized that
the ball was punted with 15 seconds left on the play clock…
15
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
15 seconds left
Is pretty crazy in hindsight (but its always 20/20)… I know the staff has spotters to watch close plays, a spotter had to have told them it was close and to wait- if they were watching. They could have also looked at the big screen. I know Matt Davison did; on the radio he thought it was OOB but after seeing the replay quickly recanted.
Unless they were expecting a punt block and wanted to throw UT off or they wanted to catch them off-guard on their return blocking I don’t really see the advantage of punting so quickly.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 19, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I dunno if I'd put that on the coaches.
The catch in question happened on the other side of the field, and if Reed wasn’t sure he got his foot down, why waste the time waiting for a replay that might or might not get it right? I saw nothing to suggest the officials would have made the right call anyway. There could be a number of different reasons they punted quickly – saying they quit at that point seems a little unjustified.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
I have a different answer. I'm concerned about Shawn Watson
Let’s be honest… this isn’t about the team. In some ways it is, but you still have to remember that we’re watching groups of college kids play a sport. I don’t have a problem if the kids don’t have what it takes to win, but that’s not what we saw. What we saw was team that wasn’t prepared to play; we’ve seen them play their hearts out, but for some reason they weren’t there on Saturday. And that’s the coach’s and coordinators’ job to get them ready.
I’m seeing a tragic symptom with Shawn Watson. Ever since he’s been the OC of the Huskers, there’s been at least one game a year where the offense was just unprepared to play. Last year it was Iowa State at home. This year it was the last game and the embarrassing SDSU game. Shawn has floated along with his coaching capacity for a while, but I’m really getting sick and tired of watching his offense get embarrassed once or twice a year due to nothing but what seems like poor preparation. The Pelinis can stay; their defense has at least been consistent all year long and doesn’t self-destruct on national TV.
My vote for concern is that Shawn Watson isn’t a consistent OC, and the Huskers need to remove the last clinging member of the Callahan era soon.
Ted Gilmore's a Callahan holdover, too
I really like Gilmore, though after Saturday’s game, it may not be the best time to launch into a full-throated defense of the man.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 18, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe...
If we have another loss in the next week or two (Okie St or Mizzou) where the offense is completely inept, followed by a revamping of the offensive strategy, then we’ll know for sure because it’s happened the LAST TWO YEARS just like this.
If the offense shakes it off and we roll the rest of the way (since this appears, so far, to be the toughest defense we’ll go against until at least the Big XII Title game…knock on wood), then maybe it’s not all on Watson after all. But I really don’t want to see the offense shut down and reworked yet AGAIN midway through the season.
But blowing a game has happened every season lately.
And it’s ALWAYS the offense that screws up, that falls flat on their face. And it’s not the same thing that happens all the time. Last year vs. Iowa State we coughed up the ball some 10 times. That time our backs couldn’t hold onto the ball, this time our receivers couldn’t. If it was something specific all the time, that’d be easy; but who has his hands in the entire offense? Watson’s the only guy, and he’s running out of time.
I hate it when coaches put their players in position to make plays and win games.
Are you serious?
A lack of execution is not always a sign of bad coaching. You show me the best coach in the world (college or pro) and I’ll show you a coach that’s coached a team that’s lost a game.
Martinez played horribly. Period. Do I need to elaborate?
Zac Lee comes into the game, makes some good/great reads and all of a sudden the same system Martinez was using in the first half works! Don’t tell me the safeties backed off and it opened up the run game. The safties aren’t named Ocho and they (the Ochos) stopped the zone-read 90% of the time in the first half.
Niles Freakin’ Paul. Cousin of former Husker/Packer great Ahman Green. WTF WAS THAT BRAH?! You publicly called for the ball. “Throw it up there and let me make a play, that’s what I do.” You sure as hell didn’t do it on Saturday! Do you remember the little dude in “Little Giants” that couldn’t catch a cold, let alone a football? That is Niles.
My heart aches for Kinnie. The guy has been amazing and quiet this season. He doesn’t complain, he just shows up and makes plays.
What happened on the field Saturday was an exception, not the rule. Everything I thought this team would do at the beginning of the year is still up for grabs. My biggest concern for the rest of the season is that Pelini’s best win in Lincoln is a 10 point win over Kansas in ’08.
Here’s a list of teams that a Pelini-led team has played but not beaten in Lincoln:
Texas Tech
Missouri
Iowa State
Virginia Tech
Texas
Kinda sad in hindsight, isn’t it?
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by Screwface on Oct 18, 2010 10:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ocho = Acho*
Damn you Chad Johnson!
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by Screwface on Oct 18, 2010 10:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So sad that ISU is on that list...
And will probably always be after this season. Yikes!
"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game;
In the deed the glory"
GO BIG RED!
by Brian Speers on Oct 19, 2010 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Stiff Upper Lip, Huskers
I’m pretty bummed out this week too.
Still can’t wait to have you guys in the Big 10. Fuck Texas. Fuck Michigan. Go Bucks. Go Huskers.
If you can't beat 'em leave 'em right?
by jtdiddy on Oct 18, 2010 10:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
If you can't beat 'em leave 'em right?
by jtdiddy on Oct 18, 2010 10:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I suppose that makes sense
Nebraska left an entire conference because of their record against exactly one school in it. I mean, that’s totally how these types of decisions are made, right? Your statement sounds like it’s based entirely in logic and not at all in the egotistical, myopic devotion to that one school.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 19, 2010 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
We’re so tired of losing to Texas, we’re going to a different conference. Where two of the other five winningest programs of all time currently reside. So we can play Iowa, Wisconsin and Michigan every damn year. All because we can’t beat Texas in football. Douchenozzle.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Did Anybody Take Notes
On how Wisconsin rammed the ball down the Buckeye’s throat? It looked so much like our offense of the 90’s. Guess what? Smash Mouth football still works. We have the O-line for that type of football. Not sure Helu is that type of back. Just imagine how potent a offense would be that could combine SM with Zone Read. We wouldn’t need receivers to do anything but block.
by cowboy_in_the_wind on Oct 18, 2010 11:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Wisconsin passes a lot more than Nebraska does
They averaged more than 200 yards per game through the air last year. I’m not sure you can combine offenses based around smashmouth football and the zone read into one gameplan. They require totally different techniques and coaching, and pretty different athletes, too. Having said that, I’m sure some brilliant offensive coordinator will go and prove me wrong over the next couple of years.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 19, 2010 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Another thought about the fumbles...
It seems like our team doesn’t recover well from turnovers…I can think of three games off the top of my head where we fumbled in the first series and the offense went on to play like garbage the rest of the game- Iowa State in 09, South Dakota State and Texas in 2010.
What I’m wondering is if the coaches preach “DON’T FUMBLE OR ELSE YOU ARE A FAILURE!!!” so loudly and so often that when a player does fumble (it’s inevitable) they feel like they’ve let their team and coaches down so much that they can’t get their head on straight for the rest of the game. Maybe Pelini should start preaching, “Don’t fumble, but if you do, it’s alright, just put it behind you and go out and do better next time”
Don't forget
The backward lateral (pass)/fumble on the part of Niles Paul last year at the beginning of the Texas Tech game.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 19, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Can I get a full back? I think we need some power blocking when the finesse running isn’t working. Can we get both Burkhead and Helu on the field and use them both on a triple option? I feel like we have plenty of O weapons with lack of a scheme to utilize them all. Anyone else feel this way?
There was one
They went under center with Tyler Legate in at fullback for a few plays, horrible center/QB exchanges stopped that pretty quickly though.
by HuskerINtheArmy on Oct 19, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
No
if we can’t spread the field and outblock Texas, we sure as hell aren’t going to do it running the triple option.
Listen – this wasn’t a meltdown because the scheme is wrong. It was a meltdown because we played one of the best defenses in the nation, dropped some critical passes, and got behind early in the game.
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by Jon Johnston on Oct 19, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I dogged
Zac Lee all year last year and this year, but I have to say I thought he played pretty good when he got the chance. I am not saying give him the job or anything but credit where credit is due. Things did seem to open up with the THREAT of passing which is all it was since the recievers picked a bad time to have thier worst day catching the ball. I have been concerned, at times, with our run defense all year. At the end of the game with it all on the line they didn’t come through. Regardless of why we were in that position, the defense had a shot to give us the ball back and have a chance to tie and they simply got the ball STUFFED down their throats. All in all it was not their best performance as a team, to many breakdowns across the board. That being said we still had a chance to win that game which to me was very encouraging. I am very interested to see how we respond in a hostile environment at Stillwater. Will they fold up camp or come out guns blazing. Although losing to Texas was sure a bitter pill to swallow they still can win the North, Big XII, and go to a BCS game so all is not lost.
What about the Officials?
Don’t get me wrong – we lost the game, Texas earned the win, fair and square. But even the ESPN announcers in the booth were dogging the officiating.
A lot.
On national TV.
by UltimaRatioRegum on Oct 19, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions
and they where wrong on most of it...
not the cleanest of games but no where near as bad as that idiot Millen portrayed it.
Lets take the PI call on Prince for instance…
Hard to tell from the booth view due to the bunch of players going from the shadows into the sun, but Prince clearly gives the WR a jerk on his shoulder with his outside hand. Easy call from the inside official, but the guys in the booth missed it and questioned the call. (Good play by Price, that was a TD if he doesn’t do it instead of UT settling for a FG)
Same could be said about the touch back call that he screwed up on and latter had to admit on the air he got the college and pro game confused.
This is a recurring story with college sports lately. The announcers really don’t know anywhere as much about the ebb and flow of the game as they imply and unfortunately that influences the fans.
God I can’t stand him as an announcer…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
Seriously?
Not concerned about Martinez? Not concerned that he can not throw the ball deep consistantly? Not concerned that the opposing defence knows this and has EVERYONE within 25 yds of the line of scrimage? Not concerned that once he’s pressured he pulls the ball down so he can’t throw it when a reciever comes open (the DBs see this and come up to help make the tackle)? Not concerned about the “deer in the headlights” look when he get pressured and has no where to run? Really? We blew out Washington because the defence scored (twice) and forced Locker into making bad decisions. We blew out K-State because they can’t stop the run. We did NOT blow out teams that we should have. I see more loses coming unless something is done at QB, that something being Lee and Green playing.
Nebraska deep at QB now...
We have depth there! (1) Taylor Martinez , (2) Cody Green or Zach Lee (4) Brion Carnes (redshirting)
Nebraska will pull it off this year. We will manage just fine. Fascinated with Martinez. I also believe Carnes may be a difference maker. His YouTube is impressive. Carnes – cousin of Tommie Frazier – has the mobility (4.45 and 4.6 reported timings in the 40) and appears to be an accomplished passer with the ability to sling it according to his YouTube. He kept connecting with current South Carolina WR Ace Sanders in high school.
Taylor Martinez was prematurely pulled in the Texas loss. Man, he can run with the football. 15 rushes, 241 yards on Kansas State two Thursday’s ago.
We are loaded at quarterback. This is the best quarterback depth we have had since Eric Crouch, Bobby Newcombe, and Jammal Lord were the depth in 2000.
Does anyone know of the progress of incoming freshman Braylon Heard getting his grades up to be able to enroll at the University of Nebraska in January? His lights out speed sure would have been a nice thing to have had this season particularly in the Texas game. I hope we sign high school senior Aaron Green also.
Both RB's
JimmytheRed – I’ve been saying that all year – get both Burkhead and Helu in with Martinez. Run a wildcat with TM flanked or flank Burkhead, (regardless of last week, he can catch the ball) – who do you cover?
Also, Zac Lee deserves some credit – he’s taken a lot of crap over the last year.
I think we might see him quicker than a lot of people think this week.
by 8th St Choppers on Oct 21, 2010 11:34 AM CDT reply actions
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