The Big 10 & Nebraska???
by Big10Tour on Dec 15, 2009 6:57 PM CST
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So amidst all of this hoopla today that the Big 10 will pursue a twelve team and add a conference championship game, the only addition that I find at all appealing would be Nebraska. The entirely new market, the positive nationwide reputation, and great academic standards...
So as a guy who spent his fall traveling to every Big 10 campus on his own dime, I would certainly welcome Nebraska into the fold...but why on earth would Nebraska consider leaving the Big 12?
Us Big 10 fans can only dream...but hey, if you'd care to take a look at the campuses/venues/traditions that you could be traveling to over the next few years, here's a recap of my fall traveling "big 10 country" from the average joe perspective:
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The Big Red in the big 10
Are you effing kidding me?!?!?! Nebraska built the Big 12, that would be a huge step DOWN!!! Enough said!!!
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I say we leave
We’re never going to get a fair shake in football in this conference — Texas runs the league and the other seven former Big 8 teams hate us so much they voted against their own interests numerous times to spite us.
by hskr4ever on Dec 19, 2009 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Direct documentation on the formation of the Big 12
"Officials of the new league were quickly saddled with two contentious issues: initial eligibility for athletes and arrangements for a football championship game.
The SWC expatriates wanted entrance requirements that were stiffer than those mandated by the NCAA. Nebraska, sustained through the years by more lenient standards, objected.
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In December of 1995, 10 months before the first Big 12 football game, the league’s school presidents agreed to allow each Big 12 school to admit two male and two female partial qualifiers each season. Still, Nebraska officials wanted to delay implementation. League presidents voted 11-1 to put the rules into immediate effect.
That was the second major defeat for Nebraska.
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In the summer of 1995, league presidents, warmed by the prospect of a title game providing another $10 million in revenue, voted 11-1 to put in a championship game.
Nebraska officials also blamed UT for the league’s choice of Dallas as the site for league headquarters, a decision that dislodged the conference from its old Big Eight base in Kansas City. Adding to the early acrimony was the league’s choice of Hatchell as the Big 12’s first commissioner, another decision driven by Texas schools."
by hskr4ever on Dec 19, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Never get a fair shake?
You already get more money from this conference than you would if all the revenue were shared equally. You benefit from the system!
How did the other schools vote against you just to spite you? Partial qualifiers disproportionately benefited Nebraska back in the day. A conference championship game benefits all schools monetarily. Now, if you’re talking about revenue sharing (and I don’t know what that vote was), then the other schools did vote against their interest. But they voted against their interest in a way that benefits you!
Look, if the Big 10 extended an invitation to Nebraska to join, NU would be foolish to turn it down. They’d get more money each year, and the only thing they’d really lose is the rivalry with Oklahoma, which was diminished by the Big 12 to the point where it’s not really a rivalry anymore. The question is whether the Big 10 wants you. If this is about TV sets, and it probably is because the Big 10 is going to be looking for new markets for its network, then Missouri is a much bigger draw. KC+STL >>>>>>>>>>>>> Omaha.
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Never get a fair shake
“Partial qualifiers disproportionately benefited Nebraska back in the day.”
—The only reason the rest of the schools voted against this is because Texas said it would go to the Pac-10 if this didn’t pass. So all of you got scared — “Oh, dear me, we can’t lose Texas” — and voted for it. I’ve known a lot of people, and not all of them went to NU, who would have been a non-qualifier and yet did well in school.
“A conference championship game benefits all schools monetarily.”
—The CCG has also killed national championship hopes once and nearly killed them on 2 or 3 other occasions, including this year.
“Now, if you’re talking about revenue sharing (and I don’t know what that vote was), then the other schools did vote against their interest.”
—Maybe they did, but that’s the way it should be. If you are on TV more, you should get more of the money. Want more? Get better so you can play on TV more.
by hskr4ever on Dec 20, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
In order
for that to happen, the Big 10 would first have to accept us academically. It’s very doubtful that would ever happen. It wouldn’t matter how good a university we have, admission guidelines, or whatever, they just wouldn’t let it happen.
At some point, though, I can imagine the Big 12 is going to have to change some things, like revenue sharing. That just might tear the conference apart, possibly sooner than later.
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Why
would the big 12 have to change anything, except move Colorado to the Mountain West and pickup TCU. Help me understand this!!
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scenario
Missouri threatens to join the Big 10 unless changes are made to revenue sharing. Texas would probably reject that idea more than anyone else because they make more than anyone else.
So….. let’s say Missouri threaten to leave unless they’re changed. Texas decides that they can’t or won’t live with the changes, and moves to the SEC or somewhere else. That would seriously damage the conference’s demographics. While I know we resent a lot about Texas, but the fact is, they’re the biggest population.
This should all get very interesting, and probably heavily dependent upon what Mizzou decides to do.
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by Jon Johnston on Dec 19, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
To the contrary
Nebraska is part of the AAU, which means your graduate research levels are definitely strong enough academically to fit in the BigTen. I think it’s more of a “why the hell would Nebraska want to leave?” Revenue sharing? I can’t see NU leaving for just that.
by formerlyanonymous on Dec 16, 2009 2:23 AM CST up reply actions
Nebraska is pretty small
Compared to other B10 schools
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small?
I wouldn’t call Nebraska so small when you compare it to the likes of Northwestern or Purdue – both who have been very competitive in the Big 10 in recent years
It appears that the Big 10 needs team #12 to amount to roughly $23 million to make it worthwhile…whether or not Nebraska or any audience can do that remains to be seen…
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