Big 10 Expansion?
Some recent new articles/rumor mills mentioned a possible Big 10 expansion. Here's a crazy thought. This is coming from a life long Husker fan.
The Big 10/11 should 3 and have 14?
Add Nebraska and Missouri and ???.
You would have rabid, devoted, traveliing NU fans [remember the Sea of Red at Notre Dame a few years back] and it would add Kansas City and cement rest/most of Mo as a market. Put them in a west division with Iowa, Minn. Wisc., Illinois and NW. There is already a bit of rivalry/hatred between Iowa and both NU and Missouri. Iowa could still play Minn and Wisc. Enhance/keep the growing the rivalry between NU and Missouri. Reignite NU rivalry with Minn. Keep the growing rivalry between Illinois and Missouri. Really wouldn’t add that much more in travel costs/geographic footprint, but gain a lot. Obviously market wise, Nebraska would be by far the smallest, but you cannot take simply state population numbers at face value with their program. NU also competes at a high level in most sports. NU has also begin to build a good sized research park on campus (not sure about MU – Husker fan myself) .
In the East, you would allow the 2 Michigan and Indiana schools to remain instate rivals, keep Mich-OSU, etc..
To add one school to the east division, you would have many options. Pitt, Lousiville, Syracuse, ND (probably most logical – imagine the money rolling in w/ Nebraska, ND, Mich, OSU, et al ), Cincinnati, Marshall, etc.
On one level, adding Notre Dame makes sense. They obviously has prestige, history (though not so good recently), name recognition, etc. They also already typically play 3-4 Big 10 teams as it is. Travel costs for them might be lower as they are in the BIg East for other sports. And it would also add a huge nationwide fan base.
Schedule wise, it would allow for 6 in division games, 3 home, 3 away. I would say play 4 from the other divison. It would allow for an even 2 home, 2 away. Obviously with only 2 extra games (in a 12 game schedule), there may be one less home game, as many times bigger schools have 3 home games out of the 4 non conference games. But it would also help eliminate some of the FCS and other canon fodder opponents, making each conference game a bigger deal, more hype, tv revenue, etc.
Just some crazy thoughts.
Some recent new articles/rumor mills mentioned a possible Big 10 expansion. Here's a crazy thought. This is coming from a life long Husker fan.
The Big 10/11 should 3 and have 14?
Add Nebraska and Missouri and ???.
You would have rabid, devoted, traveliing NU fans [remember the Sea of Red at Notre Dame a few years back] and it would add Kansas City and cement rest/most of Mo as a market. Put them in a west division with Iowa, Minn. Wisc., Illinois and NW. There is already a bit of rivalry/hatred between Iowa and both NU and Missouri. Iowa could still play Minn and Wisc. Enhance/keep the growing the rivalry between NU and Missouri. Reignite NU rivalry with Minn. Keep the growing rivalry between Illinois and Missouri. Really wouldn’t add that much more in travel costs/geographic footprint, but gain a lot. Obviously market wise, Nebraska would be by far the smallest, but you cannot take simply state population numbers at face value with their program. NU also competes at a high level in most sports. NU has also begin to build a good sized research park on campus (not sure about MU – Husker fan myself) .
In the East, you would allow the 2 Michigan and Indiana schools to remain instate rivals, keep Mich-OSU, etc..
To add one school to the east division, you would have many options. Pitt, Lousiville, Syracuse, ND (probably most logical – imagine the money rolling in w/ Nebraska, ND, Mich, OSU, et al ), Cincinnati, Marshall, etc.
On one level, adding Notre Dame makes sense. They obviously has prestige, history (though not so good recently), name recognition, etc. They also already typically play 3-4 Big 10 teams as it is. Travel costs for them might be lower as they are in the BIg East for other sports. And it would also add a huge nationwide fan base.
Schedule wise, it would allow for 6 in division games, 3 home, 3 away. I would say play 4 from the other divison. It would allow for an even 2 home, 2 away. Obviously with only 2 extra games (in a 12 game schedule), there may be one less home game, as many times bigger schools have 3 home games out of the 4 non conference games. But it would also help eliminate some of the FCS and other canon fodder opponents, making each conference game a bigger deal, more hype, tv revenue, etc.
Just some crazy thoughts.
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I saygo for it...
Texas has taken advantage of NU for long enough. Let’s see how long the big 12 lasts without Nebraska.
Not sure what's in this for Nebraska.
It’s a fun what-if game, though.
NO way!!!
Nebraska will rule the Big 12 once again!!! This idea is ridiculous, and laughable!!!
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i think
the bigger issue is – what happens if Missouri decides to join the Big 10????
We can rah-rah all we want about nebraska, but the fact is, the Big 12 needs Texas because of the market they bring. If the Big 12 were to split up, I’m not sure what would happen to us.
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You think
that the big 12, or NU cant bring the market that Texas can bring?? Texas , like NU has done before, will eventually fall into an average team. Then another Big 12 team will take over, and they will bring the “market”. There is nothing wrong with the big 12 as it is!! Nebraska will always bring fans just because they are Nebraska, just like Texas. The fan base will always carry them into the next season with the hope of winning the big game.
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If Mizzou
leaves for the Big 10, then bring in TCU!!
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GBR!
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What "market" are you talking about?
That humongous Omaha market, with its 400,000 residents? Or perhaps the Lincoln market, which adds another 250,000? Whether you like it or not, Nebraska doesn’t bring anything to the table for any conference in terms of gaining TV markets. There are no big cities (Omaha ranks with Des Moines and Wichita at the bottom of the Big 12’s TV markets) and not enough population base (the smallest state by population in the conference). So yes, I’m saying that NU “can’t bring the market that Texas can bring.” There are 24 million people in Texas; there are 2.5 million in Nebraska.
As far as trading Mizzou for TCU, that automatically makes the Big 12 a weaker conference. TCU brings nothing new in terms of TV; we already own the DFW market with UT, TAMU, OU, and Tech/BU/OSU. They’re a tiny school that’s not particularly competitive in any sport other than football. Plus, if we bring them in, how do we align the divisions. We’d have seven “south” teams and five “north” teams.
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by TB on Dec 17, 2009 8:00 AM CST up reply actions
I guess
when i think about the market, i think of fans. I realize that Nebraska is small compared to Texas, but the fan base rivals any other team or state in the country. I’m no expert on what works best, or what team can generate the most money. I love football, and to me NU is the best, good years or bad, i’ll be a diehard fan to the end!! Forgive me for my ignorance about the inner workings of tv ratings or who is bringing in the best market. Just an opinion from a fan and not a number cruncher.
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Ya know...
Unsportsmanlike Conduct (1620 AM Omaha) was toying with this idea this afternoon and brought up the possibility of Mizzou, NU, and KU joining the Big10 in an expansion to either 14 or 16 teams.
They brought up Texas creating it’s own television network and how that basically kills the chances of a BigXII network and even talk of Texas going independent, which the school has discussed before.
Personally, I love the idea. No more PPV games, fat stack revenue sharing and it leaves the door open for Oklahoma, OKState, TT, CU, KSU, Iowa State, aTm, and Baylor to create a new BigXII, by bringing in Utah, TCU, Colorado State, and Houston. Your new BigXII south would be Houston, TT, TCU, Utah, Baylor, and aTm, and the Big XII north would be CU, Iowa State, Oklahoma, OK State, Colorado State and KSU. It would basically equal out that the south would have 3 power teams and the north would have 2-3 depending on KSU.
Now the Big10 would be Minnesota, NU, Mizzou, KU, Iowa, Illinois and Northwestern in the west and Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, Purdue, Wisconsin, and Indiana in the east.
Hang 'em!!!
by Screwface on Dec 17, 2009 7:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
There is zero chance the Big Ten puts tOSU, Michigan, and PSU all one one side
especially with Wisconsin over there too.
by Texas Wahoo on Dec 18, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
It would virtually split the power of the conference.
From an athletic standpoint Mizzou + KU > OSU + Michigan in mbball and NU, Iowa, KU, Mizzou = OSU, Penn St, Michigan, Michigan State in football. Now traditionally, the football equation is not true, but they are comparable over the last decade.
Hang 'em!!!
by Screwface on Dec 18, 2009 12:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The main reason to support NU in the Big Ten is self-preservation
Namely, if the Bigger Ten runs off with Missouri and perhaps Kansas, and Texas starts getting itchy about heading to the SEC or Pac-10/12, then there won’t be much of a Big XII left. You might have something Big East or Mountain West like.
I’ll put some more out there this weekend, but I’m getting a feeling the Big XII might be starting to fracture, and if so, an expanded Big Ten might be the least offensive of the alternatives for Nebraska.
Texas already has the rest of the BigXII as it’s bitch, it wouldn’t change conferences before it tries to go independent. They already have their own TV deal and basically have the conference by the balls (what would you be without us?). I really wouldn’t mind a change of conference by Nebraska as long as KU and Mizzou went with us.
Hang 'em!!!
by Screwface on Dec 19, 2009 12:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

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