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Big Red Huskers Sports Night Open Thread (Heisman Trophy Ceremony, vs. Oregon State Basketball, vs Texas Volleyball)

It's not a football game, but this is a big night for Husker Sports. 

Ndamukong Suh has a chance to win the Heisman Trophy. This looks to be so close that it might be the most-watched Heisman ceremony in history. 

Nebraska takes on Oregon State in basketball. The Huskers are at 6-2, Oregon at 

The Huskers take on Texas in volleyball at the QWest Center in Omaha for a chance to get to the Final Four. The game will be on ESPNU at  8:00pm.  Live Stats are available here

I might be the only person here, and I can't watch the Nebraska - Oregon State basketball game because it's not available outside Nebraska, but if you bleed Husker Red, please join and post your comments. 

For good luck, here's Flying Suh, and.... Husker Volleyballer Tara Mueller. 

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Flying Suh is 5-1, his only loss by one second, a second that will live in the hearts of Husker fans forever! 
Photo by Dennis Hubbard

 

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Not fair to put the picture of Mueller in there! I thought you ran a family web site!

Not jumping for joy on the Kansas hire of Turner Gill. I am very happy for Gill because it is a step up from Buffalo, but I like and respect him so much, I am going to hate cheering against him! I am not a Kansas fan and will not be just because Turner is at the helm. Would have much rather have seen him make a move up in a different conference.

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 6:05 PM CST reply actions  

family

it’s beach volleyball. geez…. what are you, old?

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes I am!

Gray hair just like you! She is a hottie as my 5th grader just observed!

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

How about the Griz!

The game vs. App State is a good one! I was a Griz for a year, but we never had this kind of a football program when I was there! Also the Bearcats win D-II with a Creston grad playing left tackle. Dad was one of my teachers so happiness in that part of the country!

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 6:06 PM CST reply actions  

Mueller

I was inspired by going back to re-read Terry Pettit’s book.

He said this about sand volleyball in the NCAA:
Teams have to wear to the Ruben Acosta Signature line of beach volleyball apparel, keeping in mind that part of the attraction of this sport is the ambience (voyeurism) that beach culture has created. Culottes are not allowed.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 6:25 PM CST reply actions  

Good article about the book

I have wanted to attend one of his coaching clinics, but I have been out of the coaching loop for a while and cannot justify the time and expense.

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

did

you ever read his book?

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

currently

watching MN vs FSU volleyball…. MN kicking ass…..

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 6:30 PM CST reply actions  

Great!

As the NCAA did everything possible to see that FSU got in the tournament.

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

didn't have

as much time this year for volleyball.

wondering what’s going to happen for baseball season.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Cautiously optimistic about baseball!

Sounds like they have some good arms coming in. And more with the next class. Question is, are they Big XII caliber pitchers?

The fact that Newman is still around is a positive. Wasn’t sure that he would stick. Appeared that there was some inner turmoil, but that must be resolved.

Tough schedule again this year at the start of the season. Last time Anderson did that with a young team it backfired. I guess that time will tell!

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

wait!

I don’t have a beer!

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

Got beer

but not much left! Wife is on the road and will hopefully refresh my supply! Wait, my wife won’t do that! Arrgh!

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

How often have they been correct?

Did you read the SI article. Most of the SI writers that have a vote put Suh #1

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

oh man

what do you say about that?

I mean…. I mean….. I think I’ve loved Turner Gill more than any other Husker player. Loved watching him play the game. he was so graceful, so poised.

Now, you want him to be successful, but…. not THAT successful.

If what Mangino did to his players was true – the constant negative reinforcement, then they’ll respond very positively to Gill. Question is – what do they have there, and what can Gill bring?

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Will it be Suh?

I hope so. For some reason my gut is telling me that it will. It has been one of those years!

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 7:00 PM CST reply actions  

you know

right now, the rest are all looking at Suh like he’s some kind of freak job.

because he inherently wants to kill them where they stand.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:01 PM CST reply actions  

Beaver fan here

My blog doesn’t have an Open Thread up, so is it cool if I hang out here.

Being a Pac-10 guy, I want Gerhart to win the Heisman. But I think it would be awesome if Suh won it.

Good luck Beavers, good luck Gerhart, good luck Mueller, good luck Suh. Should be a good night for Sports.

Vegas Baby!

by ConnorOSU on Dec 12, 2009 7:02 PM CST reply actions  

sure thing

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

what????

Billy Sims was in a classroom in Oklahoma? how’d that happen?

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:04 PM CST reply actions  

Tim Tebow

cool as Hugh Hefner????

Given that he turned down being in Playboy’s All-American team…. what a cheesy comment.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:05 PM CST reply actions  

After browsing over the Huskers schedule

Looks like you guys are pretty good. I’m going to say 66-65 Nebraska. Any other predictions?

Vegas Baby!

by ConnorOSU on Dec 12, 2009 7:07 PM CST reply actions  

oh man

I hate to tell you this, but Husker fans normally don’t even pay attention to basketball until football season is over.

I keep hoping someone will take up basketball for us at CN here…. but so far no luck.

Now.. having said that, I think we’re 10-point favorites.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

What?

Nebraska plays basketball???

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

who knew?

I guess we’re 6-2. We beat USC. Losses to St. Louis. and…. someone else. crap.

The women are rated. I think.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Creighton...

which is bitter-sweet…always is.

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by Brian Speers on Dec 13, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw 7 in the Portland papers

I think it will be closer than that though. We’ve been playing some pretty good Basketball as of late.

Vegas Baby!

by ConnorOSU on Dec 12, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Jon...pencil me in

I have been meaning to offer, but just never got around to it. If you need a B-Ball guy, I’m your man! See my bio for credentials…

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by Brian Speers on Dec 12, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions  

i like

the idea that Suh talks about soccer early in his childhood.

I see the young kids playing football in pads, and it doesn’t make sense to me. If they want to be good at football, they should be playing soccer and getting their feet going.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

You know what . . .

I agree with you on this. I have watched this padded football up close for the past couple of years with elementary kids and I don’t like it. Playing flag football gives them a chance to learn the game and does not pigeon-hole kids into one position. I have also seen some high school football players that have a solid soccer background became the players they were because they played soccer.

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

the other problem

is – how many times have you seen anyone teach them how to play on the line?

too many youth football coaches are worried about their son’s being star skilled players. everyone else is stuck in a place where they learn little.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Bo Pelini

cleans up pretty well, doesn’t he?

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions  

Yes he does!

How about a tie and jacket on the sideline!

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Making beer run

Be back soon. No faith my wife to come through!

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply actions  

like

the banter between Tebow and McCoy…..

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:31 PM CST reply actions  

Nebraska

leads Oregon State 18-17 with 5:01 left in the first half.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:35 PM CST reply actions  

Gerhart

was fun to watch this season…..

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:44 PM CST reply actions  

here

we go……..

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:47 PM CST reply actions  

Nebraska basketball

up 24-16 with :16 left in the first half. ….

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:50 PM CST reply actions  

Eric Crouch

looked really small compared to all those other guys there.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions  

Kind of surprised that there are not more winners present.

Only one from the 60’s. You would think there would be more.

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 7:55 PM CST reply actions  

Ingram

wins it.

Damn.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:55 PM CST reply actions  

yeah

I just can’t believe they gave it to him…… but ’Bama gets the Heisman jinx.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:56 PM CST reply actions  

well

poop.

Suh still made Husker fans very proud this year, something we haven’t felt in a while.

Congrats to Ingram. Mostly.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 7:59 PM CST reply actions  

When you realize that in the three regions

Herbstreit brought up that Suh was not in the top three, that must mean that what they say is true about the QB/RB bias, or perhaps that the player has to be from one of the top few teams. I remember when Troy Davis from Iowa State got second and he shattered all kinds of records and was a runaway rushing leader despite the fact that he played on either a losing or at best mediocre team.

Oh well. Suh is a great one and my guess is that he will make a lot of money on Sundays. Who do you project as the best pro from the five?

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

point totals

Mark INgram 227 1304
Toby Gerhart 222 1276
Colt McCoy 203 1145
Ndamukong Suh 161 815

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 8:03 PM CST reply actions  

i have to leave

for a little bit.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 8:03 PM CST reply actions  

I’d have no problem with Ingram or Gerhart winning the Heisman, but how in God’s name could McCoy get more points than Suh?

New rule, if you get dumptrucked or ragdolled by another Heisman finalist, you’re automatically disqualified.

Hang 'em!!!

by Screwface on Dec 12, 2009 8:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

LOL!

A lot of media in Texas with votes and he is in the national championship! Thus my previous reference of bias on the East Coast.

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

True, true.

I have a problem with the whole “most outstanding college football player” aspect. Wouldn’t it stand to reason that the best college player this year (with exception to underclassmen) would be the best NFL rookie the following year?

Hang 'em!!!

by Screwface on Dec 12, 2009 8:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

two

different games…. ala Tommie Frazier.

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

But the reason the NFL was so skeptical of Tommie was the blood clots. We have no idea what he could’ve done in the pros because he never really got a shot.

Hang 'em!!!

by Screwface on Dec 13, 2009 9:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Suh is a beast

Bama fan here. Obviously I was hoping Ingram would win, but if he didn’t I was pulling for Suh. One of my buds is a big Nebraska fan, and just have a lot of respect for other tradition-rich programs.

Regarding the Gerhart/Ingram debate, they were pretty much even other than TDs scored, but you have to realize Gerhart played a heck of a lot more than Ingram did – in fact, he was benched at or shortly before/after our blowout wins (Arkansas, KY, Florida, the 3 non-conference games) and didn’t get near the total minutes gerhart did. Plus, as you guys alluded too earlier, Pac 10 isn’t a defense-rich conference like SEC or Big 12.

As for NFL, I give that nod to Suh. Rbs are a dime a dozen in the NFL, but someone of Suh’s size and athletic ability can dominate in the pros. I wish him well, and I think I would have to pick him in lieu of the other finalists.

I also dont like the “outstanding college football player” as it seems that the votes go for those who play on top tier teams. I look at it as an MVP award, and Ingram single handedly kept us undefeated in at least two major games this year. I also think voters look primarily at offensive players due to the direct impact on scoring they have. Not to say defensive players affect games in a similar capacity, but “sportscenter highlights” are mostly of the QB/RB/WR variety, hence the biased (and I don’t doubt its there.

I wish you guys the best, as again I like Nebraska and have tremendous respect for the team. Hope to see you in a bowl game soon! Roll Tide!

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by BamaReturns07 on Dec 12, 2009 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Great start on the volleyball court.

Screw job that they put all of the Big XII teams in the regional.

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 8:11 PM CST reply actions  

Huskers get game one!

The Texas coach has a legit bitch with the regional assignments, but Nebraska had to play Texas in Texas, so tough luck!

by jon's only friend on Dec 12, 2009 8:34 PM CST reply actions  

My only hope is...

While it sucks that Suh didn’t win it, and stupid voters who “wanted” Suh to win still voted elsewhere, I hope media doesn’t try to make a huge stink about the heismen, biases. I love Suh, but Ingram did play his heart out this year and really, you could have made a case for 4 of finalists. The point is, it would be a shame if people tried to use this year’s heismen as a talking point instead of saying how brilliant Ingram was.

by Aztecrex on Dec 12, 2009 9:18 PM CST reply actions  

hmmmmmmmm

I’ll freely admit….. I didn’t get to see Alabama as much as I’d have liked, but you’re standing up for Ingram.

Was he really that great? Heisman great?

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes and no.

Was he as great as Suh? No. But There is something to be said about getting the stats when it matters as more than just numbers in a box score and he did. Gerhart is good and he had the stats, but no one is ever going to be amazed by pac 10 defenses for the most part, and McCoy as well as Tebow underachieved in a big way this year so While his stats may not really reflect it, Watching Ingram do what he did against stingy defense after stingy defense made me at least feel ok with him winning. Trust me, my friend was an Alabama fan and I watched their games just so I could rub it in her face when they lost, but they didn’t and when they needed a big game from him, they got it.

by Aztecrex on Dec 12, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Huskers win.!

50-44. Looks to be a pretty decent start for the hoopsters. Doc and Bo must be playing poker together or something…they both have the Big 12 on lockdown as far as scoring goes!

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by Brian Speers on Dec 12, 2009 10:10 PM CST reply actions  

did you watch?

you could be the basketball guy? :)

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by Jon Johnston on Dec 12, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I replied to an earlier post..

I’d love to do it! I have to figure out how to get it on tv. I am looking into it right now.

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by Brian Speers on Dec 12, 2009 10:23 PM CST reply actions  

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