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Nebraska vs Iowa State Postgame Overreaction: Husker Offense As Bad As Cosgrove's Defense?

Niles Paul fumbles on freak play which should have had Nebraska winning. Bad luck? Stupidity? It's one play. And one play does not a game make.

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Niles Paul fumbles on freak play which should have had Nebraska winning. Bad luck? Stupidity? It's one play. And one play does not a game make.

What do you do with this? What do you do with a game in which the Huskers commit more turnovers than points? When the opposing offense is missing their two most important players, starts a true freshman quarterback and running back on the road and picks up their first win in Lincoln in 32 years? 

Eight turnovers, include two freak plays in the first half. If either of those don't end up being the freaks they are, Nebraska scores at least a field goal and at least comes out with a win. That's as useless a statement as you spending your time wondering what would have happened in your life had you not made a mistake. it's bloody (insert other non-prime time words here, but I'm trying to stay reasonable, which is difficult) useless, that's what it is! 

Star-divide

More than half the season is over and there are still so many questions yet to be answered, none of them on defense. All of this team's problems are on the offensive side of the ball - the side of which Bo Pelini had better start paying attention to before his seat gets much hotter than it already is. 

Since humanity (Husker fans included) is big on boiling things down to a single item that'll fit on a bumper sticker, I'm going to boil this down to Shawn Watson. If you can name one thing that Watson has not done is establish offensive consistency. Think about this for a minute - name one play that Nebraska runs well on offense, the one play that can keep the offense going when things are going against them -  like maybe win a game for them when they've given up seven turnovers and are only down by two points and the game is on the line. 

You can't. That's a huge problem. There isn't a single thing this offense does really really well. It isn't just the Iowa state game, it's been all season. Recall the red zone conversations for touchdowns against Virginia Tech, the lack of any offense for the first three quarters against Missouri and Texas Tech, and today, when the Huskers ended up with more turnovers than points.

We're a great team - defensively. As has been pointed out in the postgame thread - the Huskers are the anti-Bill Callahan. Bo Pelini is a great coach defensively, but he's left the offense up to a guy who doesn't appear to be up to the challenge. 

At the beginning of this season, Husker fans were worrying about whether or not Shawn Watson would leave for another team. That should end today. With all of Bo Pelini's talk about positions being up for grab after the Texas Tech game, today we saw the same ol', same ol'.

No Cody Green today. No one but Niles Paul fielding punts. Dontrayevous Robinson did well running the ball until a fumble, then Roy Helu gets back on the field to fumble again. If Helu is hurt, and you call his shoulder problem "chronic", then you stick him back for what reason - so he can fail? 

The questions aren't much different than when Bill Callahan was running this team, they're just from the other side of the ball. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what the most common denominator is. It isn't Niles Paul, Zac Lee, Cody Green, or rest of the guys on the field. 

I like Bo Pelini. I want him to be successful. He's continued to profess confidence in Watson. It sounds great, but after this half a season - what's next? 

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I'm not trolling here, I'm really not

but you write good articles corn blight. Reading this makes me think of the article posted on RR and here earlier in the year that made the ludicrous and insulting assumption that Shawn Watson would be a candidate for the CU job. I’ll tell you what, after Watson gets fired at the end of the year you can hire Dan Hawkins as your new OC. How bout that? lol

by nebraskasux on Oct 24, 2009 5:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

considering what Hawkins did at Boise

I’d take him as OC. Clearly he’s not cut out to be a head coach in the Big 12, but I don’t think Hawkins forgot how to coach.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 24, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, did you really just say that?

help us buy his contract out, you can have him!

by nebraskasux on Oct 24, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Offense was fine today

There’s nothing in the offense that made anyone fumble. I don’t see how any reasonable person could blame the offense/coaching for the loss today.

by PopeSoria on Oct 24, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can

The offensive line got pushed around. Again. They didn’t give Zac much time to throw and were unable to open holes for the running backs. As a result, we had to rely way too much on short hitches and swing passes then hope the receivers could get some yards after the catch without fumbling.

by alacy9513 on Oct 24, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's not just today

it’s the season.

today was just another day of this offense that really hasn’t been that much different in the season’s games about this offense.

we don’t score. that’s what counts, and we don’t do it.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently you and I were

watching different games. While I agree the line played better, at times opening good holes between the tackles, they were playing against one of the worst defenses in the conference. The Cyclones have a lot of heart and showed it throughout the game, but they simply do not have the talent, athleticism, or experience on the defensive side of the ball to be considered a strong defense. Lee missed badly on too many passes. Receivers again dropped passes that had to be caught. Play calling was confusing. They ran the ball well and then abandoned it. They throw to the TE and then he disappears. The need to simplify and develop consistency. They need to have an identify. I believe that they are trying to be all things instead of going with what works.

by jon's only friend on Oct 24, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if by fine, you mean, still no identity, and EIGHT turnovers

then yes, it was fine.

How drunk are you?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 24, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fear

Here’s my off-the-wall theory on the fumbles/turnovers/miserable play today.

#1. Our offense has struggled(understatement) every game this year against anybody who is even close to being anybody.

#2. Everyone can agree that it’s Watson that is the problem here.

#3. The players are trying their hardest to give it that extra effort and turn things around.

#4. When you are fighting for that extra yard or you’re trying to squeeze in that long pass or whatever the case may be…you open yourself up to mistakes…mainly turnovers.

That’s what’s happening. Watson is making horrible calls. The point production has gone through the floor. The players try harder. Turnover. Rinse/Repeat.

My solution: Ultimatum for Watson. 35 points next week against Baylor. Call whatever you want, but that’s your goal. Hit it and stay. Miss it and you’re gone. The entire playbook is yours. No limitations. No excuses. You are 100% in control, and you will be 100% responsible for your actions, win or lose.

by Speerdo on Oct 24, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What is going on

with the inconsistent play. I thought this year would be different. KState is doing better than the Huskers in Big12 play. I’m not sure the North title is attainable anymore. Anyone else agree?!

by sd.husker on Oct 24, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure another win is attainable.

Seriously, who do we outscore at this point? We’ve scored two offensive touchdowns in the last two games. Who do we put up enough points on that we beat them the rest of this season?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 24, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iowa State without their starting quarterback and runningback

I don’t think we should forget that either

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 25, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on, guys.

The Huskers will be a favorite against Baylor next week, and they’ll probably win, too. Relax.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're basing that on what exactly?

Have you seen anything out of the offense the last two weeks that actually makes you think we’ll “probably win” other than blind loyalty?

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 25, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen!

Everyone I was with at the game agreed – Watson should have left with Callahan. In fact, I’m not so sure it wouldn’t be a good idea to let him go today – and replace him with: Ron Brown, Barney Cotton, ANYBODY!

by twh7920 on Oct 24, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, the offensive staff as a whole needs to be let go.

There isn’t one guy on the offensive side of ball right now coming CLOSE to pulling their weight. Year two of Barney Cotton’s piss poor blocking, and myriad of penalties is about all I’m willing to take.

Ron Brown should have never been brought back in the first place, and Ted Gilmore certainly doesn’t understand how to take average WRs and make them better.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 24, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

When Watson called for a long pass on 3rd down with 4 yards to go for first down I became convinced he was trying to sabotage the game.

by StuckinTX on Oct 24, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm tellin ya'll it's sabotage!

Interesting, the post directly below mentions Ted Gilmore. You need to stop stealing coaches from awful CU teams.

by nebraskasux on Oct 24, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our wide receiver corps might be the worst in the history of Nebraska

there isn’t one guy on this team you can lean on. For god’s sake, Todd Peterson seems like Jerry Rice compared to these guys. Ted Gilmore needs to pack his bags. Today

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 24, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there's something to be said for hyperbole

“the worst in the history of Nebraska”.

I know I entitle the post “over reaction” so we get it out of our system but they’re not that, or at least I refuse to believe it.

and you know as well as I do that coaches don’t get fired mid-season, especially at Nebraska.

add something to the conversation, other than just sheer disgust, please. you’re better than that.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We just expected more

than this team is capable of. We all had high hopes for a turnaround season and now it’s looking not so good right now. Defense wins championships, but you gotta have SOME kind of offense. Breaks my heart!!!

by sd.husker on Oct 24, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this team is capable of better than 8 turnovers

if it’s not, then we’re in a world of problems

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 24, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a group, they truly might be the worst.

there isn’t a single receiver on this team who can make the tough catch, and there isn’t a single receiver who can consistently make the easy ones. There’s a reason Niles Paul was still in the game after that ridiculous fumble, and three dropped passes that would have been first downs. We have no one else.

Coaches do get fired at midseason, it happened just last year at Auburn. To their Offensive Coordinator ironically enough. Or they get" reassigned" it doens’t happen often, but it happens, and right now, Ted Gilmore should not be coaching the receivers. I’d rather have Ron Brown doing it, and I dont even really think he should be on the staff.

This team is an absolute mess, right down to Watson claiming Zac Lee managed the game “perfectly” Shakeups could actually wake this team up from it’s slumber.

And I have nothing but sheer disgust after that game, it was the definition of disgusting.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 24, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or and I remember here at Nebraska a few years back, Callahan shuffling the defensive duties

of Elmo and Busch mid season. So it happens here. and it should happen again

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 24, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't

compare us to Auburn. ever.

or Alabama for that matter. unless that’s what you want for a football team and athletic department. if you want fair comparisons, stay within the conference, because those SEC folks are crazy and everyone in football knows that.

i am disgusted as well… but looking for something more than a complete upheaval. I’m a little slow on that – I always have been, and always will be.

Starting different players – Cody Green – I’m for that.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

what needs to happen! Change!! NO, I didn’t vote for Obama. I may be crazy, but not stupid.

by sd.husker on Oct 24, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

something tells me that statement isn't completely accurate

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 25, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't compare us to the #1 team in the country?

Yeah, I guess we don’t deserve that comparison. I guess as long as your going to move the goalposts……..

You said coaches don’t get fired midseason, so I present a situation where it happened, and suddenly I can’t use that situation? Ridiculous. You want to keep your head buried in the sand, I can’t stop you. I notice you didn’t respond when I brought a situation when it happened AT NEBRASKA. whatever

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 25, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Insanity

is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Something NEEDS to CHANGE to get this bus rollin’!!
GBR!

by sd.husker on Oct 24, 2009 9:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad coaching

It’s not the players fault its the coaches. If they can beat missouri in the 4th quarter on their turf and in the rain and lose a heartbreaker of 1 point in blacksburg, how the hell do you drop 2 losses to unranked opponents in Lincoln. Simple zero motivation and the wrong attitude. It’s the coaches job to get his players ready and instill the right mentality before a game. As we are aware college football is a game of emotions and the teams with higher emotions beat nebraska. Also if you go in there thinking you’re hot stuff, you loose, like we saw against Tech & Iowa State. Pathetic job by Pelini, if he can’t do better next year, bye bye. I live in Tucson & the Wildcats are in the BCS, so there are no excuses.

by Mark_Husker on Oct 24, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

tough to watch

I moved from Neb. 20 years ago and everyone where I live knows I’m a husker grad and fan. They have had a lot of fun kidding me these last few years, but now starting to feel sorry for me.

by gekque on Oct 24, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

On the field player leadership

There isn’t any leadership. I see the offensive staff staying till the end of the year. We have to deal with the deck we have till then. An infusion of leadership on the field could make a big difference. This offense lacks confidence and Cody Green carries it in spades. We need him on the field now!

by riff on Oct 25, 2009 6:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe people want heads to roll already

Ya know, if a perfect storm of suck doesn’t hit us inside the 5 yard line yesterday, we’re talking about how we won by 20 points today. I don’t think it’s time to can anybody yet.

I haven’t wanted to see Zac benched yet, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Green get the nod at Baylor. I wouldn’t forget Zac either, but I might give Green the start.

by Husker_in_KC on Oct 25, 2009 6:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's probably the best argument for making the switch...

It shakes things up and potentially allows you to break out of your funk. You see this occasionally at goalie in hockey, even if it’s not the goalies fault. Put the other guy in, and see if they’ll rally around him.

by Husker Mike on Oct 25, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not just about today

it’s about this season, against even moderately good teams. Our wide receivers are simply not good. And I don’t think it’s all a lack of talent. Yes, we would have beaten a bad team missing their two best offensive players, and we wouldn’t be as angry, but I still saw the same lethargic offense I’ve seen every week we’ve played a team outside the Sun Belt.

Dropped passes have been a ridiculous epidemic, as has poor blocking, and Zac staring down receivers. And worst of all, the complete lack of offensive identity

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 25, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Commies versus Americans

The way these guys all play on offense is hard to watch.

Consider this fun little analogy:

Husker Offense – Stiff. Rigid. Afraid to make mistakes, almost like the firing squad will be waiting for them should they fail. Confused. Faceless. Boring.
Sounds a lot like the Soviet Union!

Husker Defense – Passionate. Driven. Gutsy. Reckless at times. Fun. Memorable. And exactly the opposite of the offense.
Sounds like the good ’ol U.S of A.!

I think Nebraskas paperweight…err, uh…playbook is far too complicated. Look at our sucess when that playbook consisted of 3 plays (Run left, run right, and run straight up the gut). Wasn’t flashy, but ask Kirk Ferentz what he would prefer right now, flashy or undefeated and a tad boring? Teams still do it, and it works simply because these 18-22 year olds aren’t maxing out their brain cells while trying to catch a pass. It was easy: Hand football to player. Player runs as far as he can. Player eventually ends up in the endzone. Nebraska wins.

 Sometimes I feel like Watson sits up in his throne like the King, and directs his “Masterplan”, while the troops on the field run around in panic mode, wondering if they’ll make it out alive. After all, they do have both the opposing team, and their own heavy-handed fans to deal with in addition to the coaches. It’s gotta be tough when you have 3 parties calling for your head!

 I was a bit concerned when Cody Green stated in is press conference before this game (“I know about 270-280 plays now!”) as he was smiling. Something just didn’t sit right with me on that. It was just too much focus on material, and not enough on the attitude. I have been a manager for years, and the biggest mistake leaders can make is to take the fun out. You want people to dis-engage and live in a cloud?….take out the fun. Easiest way to kill your identity, and drive people into mediocrity.

Cody Green is a fantastic and talented freshman. He should be focusing on his fundamentals, but also learning from the older guys how to have fun and win. The intangibles. The so called “leaders” on this Nebraska offense haven’t figured that out quite yet.

I Like Bo Pelini like the rest of us do. I would even be willing to stick with him for a few more seasons of bad play. But it starts with him (one of his favorite comments). This guy needs to lighten up a bit, simplify the offense, and get these kids in the right frame of mind.

How often have we seen this guy after practice looking like he just lost his dog? Come on Bo, there is passion for the game…and then there is just downright depression. Too much science, and not enough philosophy. Let’s go back to the basics, and the American way. Draw up a play on your hand, and tell your boys to just go out there and have fun. That’s what this game is all about.

by Mr. Corn on Oct 25, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Curse of Solich?

Nebraska has went through how many coaches in how many years? How are you going to recruit KIDS to a school where the head coach can be whacked off like a mob hit if the team doesn’t go 9-3? And might get whacked if he does! How are you going to recruit KIDS to a school where the FANS boo them at half time? Recruiting is critical and you are not going to get players to come to a school in the middle of the country with such attractive surroundings to play for a coach who might not be there the following year. …….oh because of US the FANS!

by SavaKill on Oct 25, 2009 9:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Mr. Corn

You’re absolutely right about the Soviet Union/USA analogy.

Green said he new 280 plays? 280?!?!?!!? I really hope we’re talking about a system where there are maybe 5 different variations of about 56 plays. Something like that. If we’re talking about 280 unique offensive plays, then Watson needs a labotomy. These kids have classes. These kids have social lives and families. These kids are lacking in fundamentals like holding on to the football and holding a block. The cart is officially ahead of the horse. Forget about 280 plays. Knock it down to about 100 and spend more time at practice working on holding the rock and doing the lil things right.

If we have 280 offensive plays(or more), why do we run that rediculously worthless shotgun option read draw bullshit every 3rd play?!?!?!?!? WAKE UP NEBRASKA!!!!! JESUS CHRIST!!!! GET PISSED!!!! GET MEAN!!!! GRAB SOMEONES JUNK IN THE PILE!!!! BREAK SOMEONES FACEMASK WITH YOUR FACEMASK!!! LOSE YOUR COMPOSURE!! FREAK OUT!!!!

These past 3-4 years are the first times in my life where I thought I could actually play for Nebraska. That’s not because I’ve improved to their level of play, but the exact opposite.

by Speerdo on Oct 25, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hahaha...

I love that last comment! I always thought that if I had a shred of a chance to play for the Huskers, it would be as a punter. But over the last few years, that hasn’t been the position that could be phoned in by anyone…it has been the QB.

by Mr. Corn on Oct 25, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fail

to understand why everyone keeps pointing to the fact that ISU was without their starting runningback and quarterback….I could understand it if they had scored 30 points or something but the total was 9. 9!!!!!! for gods sake. Get over the fact that they didnt have those players, they dont play defense.

by taflorom on Oct 25, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well, I keep pointing it out because we probably get blown out if they had those guys playing

the only reason we were actually IN this game is because they didn’t have their starters.

I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers

by Nunyabidness on Oct 25, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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