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Nebraska vs Iowa State: Post Game Thread - Suicide Watch Begins

Never saw it coming.

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Never saw it coming.

This is your post game thread for the Nebraska - Iowa State game.

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Yay! We get a suicide watch thread! Hooray for us!

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Really I try and not let it affect me that much,

They are kids, and I watch the games for fun.

Try not to freak out too much people.

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by JLew on Oct 24, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wasn't sure

what else to use for a headline.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the most embarrassing loss in NU history

I’m saying it again.

Only thing that would make it worse would be if the D imploded.

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by JLew on Oct 24, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Do not take anything away

from Iowa State. They did not freak under the pressure of 80,000+ fans. The did not turn the ball over. Their D came up big when it needed to. Nebraska gave the game to them, but they were there to take it. All of us have seen underdogs not take advantage of mistakes made by the favorite. Iowa State did.

by jon's only friend on Oct 24, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, ISU should get major props. They overcame a huge disadvantage and came away with it.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

Clone Chronicles…. could use the love.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I already did! Don’t need to tell me. :)

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ISU props?????

You have to be kidding. If you give ANY team 8 turnovers you had better lose. I would be imbarrased to be ISU, Only 9 points when the opposing team gives you 8 turnovers??? Neither team deserved the win.

by jlowellr on Oct 24, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure

what to say about this one.

Paul Rhoads – made some nice comments about us at the end of the game and about his own team. Hopefully Pelini can keep himself a little cool after this one.

8 TO’s. 8. Eight.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tipping point

That’s all I can think of. Once enough players become convinced that they can’t play, then everything falls apart. Fast.

It seemed like a good idea at the time.

by pheidole on Oct 24, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's a good point

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts as well

Now we get to see what Pelini is really made of. He’s done great with the defense, but today’s debacle proves that the offense needs a lot of work as well. Can he keep it together for the rest of the season, or are we looking at a 2007-esque collapse?

by GoHskrs on Oct 24, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am watching

the post-game on TV and I have never seen Nebraska fans sitting like this in the stadium stunned. Husker Nation has to stick together. That was a message the team tried to show with their arms linked when they came on the field. Everybody, it was worse when BC was here!!!!!

by jon's only friend on Oct 24, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll be sticking with them, but I actually want them to play as a team, not just walk out like one.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1000

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What now?

Any suggestions as to what they do to fix this? It can’t all be pointed at QB, WR, RB… really it was a systemic breakdown in all phases of the offense. How do you fix that?

by SoccerHusker on Oct 24, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was just typing a comment asking the same question.

I’m really curious to see what Bo will do this week. If you’re Pelini, do you shake things up on offense, or just preach hanging onto the football and chalk this game up to one massive fluke?

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 24, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy I don't know

It seems like one of those times when you don’t know where to start with the questions let alone know where the answers are.

by jon's only friend on Oct 24, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

other than honestly just working harder the next week.

We’ll go back and look after this – but on offense, you really have to break it down to plays that your offense can run and be successful all of the time.

This offense has zero confidence at this point. none.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately too true

And the impending media firestorm/pitch fork wielding mob that is about to descend on their heads is not going to help one bit. I hope the fans can at east see the forest in the trees and try to stay away from individual player bashing… sadly I’m an optomist…

by SoccerHusker on Oct 24, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough loss guys....

My Nebraska co-worker just broke down. He’s not happy at all. Especially after last week. I’m doing everything I can to cheer him up.

Sorry guys, better luck next week.

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by KWashburn on Oct 24, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Next up, OU vs KU. OU up by 7 in the 1st.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Again, I missed all but the last, glorious 3 minutes

Did Green get any playing time?
Was the turf wet?

It seemed like a good idea at the time.

by pheidole on Oct 24, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No

Green didn’t play at all.

it rained a little bit in the fourth quarter.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Receivers and runners not able to catch or hang onto the football. That’s about it. O-line didn’t help, but we gave this away. Lee did fine for the most part and should not be blamed except possibly for the last two garbage INTs.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll tell you one

thing that needs to happen this week. You hate to see coaches throwing players under a bus, but at the same time, they need to stop letting them off the hook, too.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One of the latter rhymes with “smiles squall”.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think Pelini handling it just fine. Putting lots of responsibility on himself and the coaches. Press is very quiet as well.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no one

wants to be stared to death.

Pelini can do that.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's

int hat movie coming out – “Men who stare at Goats”

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Thank you again for making me laugh. Needed that.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

they won’t ask such stupid questions this week.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that was short

really really short.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well

when the game summation is “We were woefully bad at offense.” and it was literally every position, it has to either be a 2 minute press conference or an 8 hour one with game film breakdown to try and cover it.

by SoccerHusker on Oct 24, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you sure

you don’t have that the other way around?

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, let’s not get hasty. There is a lot on both players and coaches.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you mean

which? I’m confused.

Not start a mob? Or not stab two coaches with forks?

Damn. I’ve always liked mobs.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

three

three bad beers.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good lord, how many beers have you had?

hahahhaa

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by KWashburn on Oct 24, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

at this point. It’s more than three.

but seriously. I’ve always liked mobs.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a damn cool story, thanks for the read!!

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by KWashburn on Oct 24, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cotton goes first

See if that motivates anyone …

by GoHskrs on Oct 24, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm not sure

i disagree with that assessment.

Although. You know we can’t do that mid-season.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank god Nebraska has a defense

or the BC days of ‘07 would be back quickly. Absolutely terrible…….F minus. I can’t blame this on Zac Lee, but he didn’t help the cause either. I would rather bench Lee and play Green the rest of the season and take my lumps than watch Lee continually throw high and behind players. There is a reason Lee was a transfer from Junior College and Cody Green was a 5 star prospect out of Texas and that’s just pure ability and talent.

by Dogham on Oct 24, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

what a freakish

season……

one point loss on the road after a big play
one big win on the road in a biblical flood downpour, scoring 27 points in the 4th.
okay… Texas Tech kicked our ass
then 8 TO’s against a team we haven’t loss at home to in 34 years.

shit.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I really like how Ndamukong Suh handles himself with the press.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

he answers questions, instead of getting defensive (oh, hahahahaahahahaaha!). Imagine that!

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Once again, I rec you sir.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay

seriously. i’m going to get more beer. because i’m out.

and then i’ll be back. unless one of my neighbors makes a comment to me. then I’ll kill them, and force the police to go on a high speed chase. I won’t be taken alive. sunsabitches anway.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Last time i checked

when Nebraska replaced their starting QBs with Freshman QBs mid-season (Turner Gill in 1981 and Tommie Frazier in 1992) they turned out pretty good. Hopefully, there will be more emphasis in recruiting some top level high school RBs and WRs and let them know they are coming here to start immediately and will not redshirt. Cody Green is going to need it.

by Dogham on Oct 24, 2009 3:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To play Devil's Advocate

Last time I checked Tommie Frazier is one of, if not the best, college QB in history. Cody Green may end up being spectacular, he may not, but using Frazier as the rule is not quite accurate.

by SoccerHusker on Oct 24, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To play Devil's Advocate

I’m willing to take that risk

by Dogham on Oct 24, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair Enough

After that performance, really why not just play the second string at this point…

by SoccerHusker on Oct 24, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The WRs especially

I was disappointed to see the “first-stringers” still in there at the end, particularly after Kinnie got on a bit of a roll. These other guys need some playing time to get better.

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by awolfson on Oct 24, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They need to do something.

I would think putting Green in would force them to use a different chapter in the playbook. Maybe they can establish an identity.

by jon's only friend on Oct 24, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A penny for Alex Henery’s thoughts. :/

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least KU is sucking up at home as well. OU just returned an INT for a touchdown. 14 OU 0 KU.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I just heard.....

the blue light is on at K-Mart and and gun sales have dramtically increased in the past hour in Greater Nebraska and parts of the midwest region.

by Dogham on Oct 24, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

but is there any ammo?

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

should we start another thread for the rest of today's games

are…. as I’m guessing, are most Husker fans going to just saunter off and do something else, perhaps something harmless, like go pheasant hunting, or bowling, or lock themselves in the bathroom with a spoon?

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Callahan

I’m going to go out on a limb here. I wish Nebraska had the offense Callahan was running. I am sick and tired of trying to watch them try to run out of the shotgun, it’s garbage. Double tight, fullback running. I don’t understand what Watson is trying to do. This was the worst game to watch, even worse than those 2007 games. Lee is not a zone read quarterback. Ganz was decent at it, Green would be awesome at it.

by firejason on Oct 24, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No. I don’t think ANYONE wants that. Sorry.

by davereid on Oct 24, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather have this team than any of Callahan's.

At least with a great defense and bad offense you won’t get blown out as often as with one of Cosgrove’s defenses.

by alacy9513 on Oct 24, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

with you, but you’re on to something.

writing up my post game overreaction….. and i have some beer now.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It isn't

That’s not Callahan’s WCO? I could’ve sworn it was.

Regardless, they need to return to the old-style running offense. What Bo’s running out there right now isn’t cutting it.

by Darth Venomous on Oct 24, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say I wanted Cosgrove

All I’m saying is that the offense looks different from last year, 07, and 06. Wasn’t Watson the coordinator then? They were in the top 25 in rushing. When Callahan was there, they ran the ball differently, they played hard nose running the ball football. Now they’re trying to spread guys out, zone crap, it’s not working this year. When they were lining up with double tight and fullback, they were actually running the successfully today. That is how they ran it when Callahan was there, that’s all I’m saying.

Callahan is a west coast guy, but I really think he knows how to run the football. Now I didn’t say run a football team.

by firejason on Oct 24, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think

the biggest problem with this offense is they haven’t anything on which they can depend. nothing.

the defense has several things on which they can depend. Offense, nothing.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The offensive line is the best part of the offense today...

Dont understand what people are thinking. Cotton’s group played the best, and it wasn’t that good, but they outplayed the QB, WR, RB, everybody. But hell, Lee had time, still throwing behind people and starting to throw into double coverage. Our WR are horrible. This may the the worst offense in the short history of the big xii. Watson is got to be coaching for his job right now.

Lee was OK, but not a leader at all. God, we need a spark, and he is not the guy. And can we please stop with giving I State cred. They are a bad team even with their starting QB and RB, but we are worse. Right now, we are a 6-6 team with Lee. We may be worse with Green, but we may be better, but as far as I am concerned, going 4-8 vs. 6-6 is really no difference. Gotta give Green the chance. No rational reason not to.

by meatybob on Oct 24, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A solution to the scoring problem

Kick a field goal as soon as the offense gets within 55 yards of range, regardless of what down it is.

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by awolfson on Oct 24, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

It really does beg the question...

…is Iowa state “back”?!
But seriously, to folks stating their comparisons of this fallout to that of the Callahan era, I will say this:
the end results are actually strikingly similar…we have a one-dimentional team, headed by a coach who appears to give little more than lip service to the aspect of the game that falls outside his personal area of genius. We remain a solid unit on one side of the ball and a laughingstock on the other…with the same middling results to show for it in thw w/l column.
The only difference being that instead of a passine, ineffectual bead coach we now have…well, let’s just say the opposite.
Also, zac lee should be benched, if but for no other reason than that he cannot his the broad side of a barn with any frequency for any sustained period of time…all of his pics today resulted from his inability to hit receiver anywhere that they don’t have to flail through the air to try and at least get their hands on it. Hence your several drive-killing tipped ints that some would seem to suggest were not Lee’s fault at all.
Pitiful…

by DTsker on Oct 24, 2009 4:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

dude

very astute. you need to come around more often.

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by Jon Johnston on Oct 24, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will try to … Thanks cb!

by DTsker on Oct 24, 2009 4:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

And that was supposed to be “passive” head coach… But my iPhone got away from me in my furor!

by DTsker on Oct 24, 2009 4:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Passivity

DTsker, I will say as much in my rant on Monday (available at www.spatulacitybbs.net). I appreciate Bo for the passion he brings, but at some point, he has to show competence. Allowing the same cluster-effing people to remain in the game only to perform more clustering, doesn’t speak well for him.

by Darth Venomous on Oct 24, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bo Pelini:

“Zac Lee’s not the problem…we didn’t play well around Zac Lee today.”
Or last week, or the week before that…Is it just me, or does he just kind of contridict himself right there. To me, that just sort of sums up why Green should be given a chance to lead this team. But what do I know…I’m just a stupid fan who’s fixated on what happens on the field on Saturdays! I’m sure Lee lights it up in practice and in meetings! I guess we have to actually lose to Iowa state at home just to prove to ourselves that our stubborn coaches know best!
Where was all this talk about “every position being open”? All I saw was the exact same guys doing boneheaded shit.

by DTsker on Oct 24, 2009 4:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Wow

normally I would be giddy after something like this. Losing AT HOME to an ISU team playing without their two best players?? That’s rough, but Dan Hawkins has killed the part of me that actually “feels.” Hope you guys are enjoying Shawn Watson, he’s a helluva coach, huh? (I wouldn’t of brought that up if he didn’t bad-mouth us earlier this year) Should be a barn burner day after Thanksgiving. Ugh…

by nebraskasux on Oct 24, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I couldn’t catch the game out here in the desert, but I fired up the Gamecast on ESPN and then left to run some errands. I got back shortly after the game ended. This was my reaction.

"The Rolling Stones are playing Philadelphia tonight. But we're better, so f*** 'em"
- Paul Westerbeg

by TroubleMan on Oct 24, 2009 6:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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