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Defensive Stats - and other silliness

"Five Big 12 teams are ranked 91st or worse nationally in pass defense. Colorado is No. 91 (245 ypg), Texas No. 98 (261 ypg), Nebraska is No. 103 (269.7 ypg), Texas Tech is No. 105 (272.7 ypg) and Missouri is No. 109 (293.7 ypg). … Kansas is sixth nationally in pass offense (347 ypg) but 102nd in rushing offense. The Jayhawks are last in kickoff returns. In seven returns this season, Marcus Herford is averaging 9.3 yards. Kansas was seventh nationally in kick returns last season, led by Herford, who averaged 28.7 yards per return and was named the Big 12's special teams player of the year. … Iowa State is 115th nationally in net punting (26.0 ypp). … Texas A&M is 114th in rush defense, giving up 235.5 yards per game on the ground. "

I found this discussion on rivals.com and it got me to thinking: "If , at the end of the year, were able to statistically separate those teams who played against the "spread" and those teams which did not or very seldom - you will find those that played againest the "spread"  more often or not, will all be rated very low and appear to be lame defensively.

I will bet that a team that wins the mythical defensive title (finishing #1, etc. ) will be one of those teams NOT playing against the spread - especially in the Passing statistical areas- regularly.

 

A new method for evaluating defensive statistics needs to be generated in order to compare apples to apples.

 

Any thoughts on this?

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Hmmmmmmm.

Well, I’ve been thinking lately that defense has become optional. :)

The problem with the ‘spread’ statement is that you’d first have to define who’s running the spread, which means you’d have to define what the spread is. The problem with that is the word ‘spread’ is being used to describe just about anything because it sounds sexy.

Or you get a hyrbid/multiple offense like Nebraska, and what the heck we run on a given week depends on the opponent, although we’re still mostly WCO-based.

I think one of the problems is the penalties, the calls, that are being made favor the offense to an extent at which we’ve never seen before. All a defensive back has to do is put his hands on a receiver and they’re caliing pass interference.

That’s the devil’s advocate approach, anyway.

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by corn blight on Sep 18, 2008 10:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Defense? What's that?

You’re right about defining what is a “spread” offense. The point I was kind of getting to is that the “talking heads” or other body parts (think ass or Lou Holtz here) make it sound as though the Huskers ,in particular, defense is suspect, etc, etc, .

 I think the new defensive strategy in CF is definitely a “bend don’t break” mentality. I can see Missouri racking up monterous yards, but if they don’t score I would say that the defense played an outstanding game. After last year, I’m ready to say that any team we outscore, the defense was fantastic :-) Know what I mean?

by Carolina Husker on Sep 19, 2008 1:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Defense - all about the points

Like Bo said – I don’t care about yards, just points.

Passing the ball effectively does give the offense an advantage when it comes to penalties, but it forces the defense to go back on its heals. That’s just a couple of reasons moving to a more Balanced offense vs. the option of old is beneficial.

As for conference to conference, defenses are usually made to stop the offenses in there specific conference.

But coaching still plays a big part in defense. The halftime adjustments (which the last Husker staff lacked) are so vital to a defense.
I think, along with mixing up – pressure has to come all the time at the QB even if it comes late- and the attitude of a defense are the other pieces of the puzzle.

With all that said, get the QB on his back (like Manning in the 97-98 Championship game) and the outcome is academic.

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by Bighuskerman on Sep 19, 2008 3:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's a good point

We tend to get wrapped up in statistics, and I suppose part of that of woofing, whose offense is better, whose defense.

Given playing against the offenses in our conference, we’re going to see Nebraska run a ton of five and six defensive back sets. Whether or not all those young guys can actually play defense, that’ll be interesting to watch.

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by corn blight on Sep 19, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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