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Initial 2008 Blogpoll - Feedback Requested

The season is nearly upon us, and it’s time to fill out the first Blogpoll of the season. I would appreciate feedback on this one - that’s one of the stated goals of the blogpoll - because there are clearly some spots where I’m struggling.

This is (mostly) a power poll, i.e., if Mizzou plays Oklahoma in a vacuum, who do you think will win? It's probably also obvious that I pay more attention to coaching than star player A. I've tried to read and follow Brian's philosophy regarding the Blogpoll, although I find it interesting that those who do whacky stuff get more attention than those that don't.

I am not ranking Nebraska. I’m as exited about Bo Pelini as the next guy, but the team has yet to step on the field. If they want to be ranked, they’re going to have to earn it. Win your games and things will take care of themselves.

Yeah, I know I didn't get to 25, but some of those multiple choice teams will fill in the rest.

1. Georgia
I actually don’t like Georgia much, and I’ve been trying to figure out why. Maybe it’s because my exposure to the state is that damned big airport in Atlanta. Georgia has a ton of talent back, but the key question is who would win a Georgia-Florida match up? I guess you know how I’m betting on.

2. Ohio State
Someone gets to win the Big 10 and there aren’t any other worthy challengers. You know they’ll finish high unless Wisconsin knocks them off at home, and they’ll probably play in the national title again even if they lose to USC early in the season. Hey, Beanie Wells is fun to watch, isn’t he? He’ll probably win the Heisman.

3. Missouri
A Big 12 team belongs here. Most will have Oklahoma, but I’m picking Mizzou. The Nebraska game is huge for them, for both teams really, as winning in Lincoln for the first time in 30 years is a huge mental barrier to overcome. Chase Daniel, Jeremy Maclin, Chase Coffman, and a solid defense all add up to a great year for Mizzou.

Note this: That two Mizzou bloggers, Mizzourah and Rock M Nation rank themselves below Oklahoma shows either their insecurity about their team or their inherent bias against their own homerism. I vote the former. What say ye?

4. USC
Great athletes, great coach, great looking cheerleaders - these guys have everything. Yet there’s something about them... maybe it’s last year’s inconsistency - that’s haunting me. You can talk about talent all day long, but if it doesn’t produce, it’s worthless. Still, another team that spent last year getting a lot of good players experience, USC is most likely a team to play for the 2008 national title.

5. Florida
Tim Tebow, best athlete in any sport any where in history, just ask Urban Meyer. Like USC, they spent last season getting good players a lot of experience, but this season they have to prove they can play consistent defense. I’m betting no, not consistent enough to win a title.

6. Oklahoma

Oklahoma is here for one reason and that is Sam Bradford. Sophomoritis sets in, costing Oklahoma the Big 12 title game. They have tons of experience, great offense, great defense, but again, I’m counting on Bradford falling down a bit, see Colt McCoy: Sophomore season.

7. Clemson

Everything about Clemson says they’re a team ready for greatness. Great backfield with quarterback Cullen Harper and running backs Davis and Spiller. Big deal. Everything about recent history says they’ll lose games they shouldn’t somewhere along the line.

8. LSU
If I were a true traditionalist, I’d vote them #1 because I believe that you’re the #1 team until someone beats you. Unfortunately with today’s pre-season scheduling it could be a month and I’m not going to reward them in that manner (and don’t give me crap about them playing Appalachian State in the first game). Gone are Dorsey and their quarterbacks. That’s enough to drop them this far.

9. Texas Tech
I really really want to pick Tech to win the Big 12 South, but Oklahoma is stacked. (I’m hedging my bets here, aren’t I?) 18 returning starters, Graham Harrell, Michael Crabtree, best defense in years, but again, another team that has to learn how to be consistent and get over the hump to greatness.

10. West Virginia

Pat White, Noel Devine, and a great offensive line, which means tons of scoring again this season. They’d better enjoy it because after this season I don’t see them matching the success that Rich Rod had.

11. Wisconsin
Someone is going to finish second in the Big 10 and that someone will be Wisconsin. I like how Wisconsin plays football, gritty defense and your traditional banging offense. Bret Bielema is the best coach people don’t talk about, they have a very good offensive line, and they have a number of quality backs.

12. PAC 10 - 2
- Arizona State, Oregon or California.
Someone is going to finish second to USC in the Pac 10, and it’ll be one of these three teams. I can’t decide between them.
Arizona State won a lot of games last season, although against questionable quality, and Dennis Erickson has sold his soul to the devil.
Oregon and California, well, Oregon seems to fall apart when things don’t go their way. California has too many hippies. Yes, if not integrating blacks in 1966 made the nation go against the Bear, I can base my vote against hippies in trees.

13. Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech is the same team every year and that’s because of Frank Beamer's coaching. So what if half the team is hurt or suspended, the style of football they play keeps them in nearly every game.

14. South Florida
Better than Florida State and Miami again this year? Is this too high a ranking for the Bulls?

15. BYU

They win the Mountain West beating everyone else. Whooeee! Probably a little too high here.

16. Wake Forest

Jim Grobe. ACC.

17. Penn State
Anthony Morelli is gone and I should move them higher based on that alone. However, can they beat Ohio State? No. Can they beat Wisconsin? I don’t think so, so here they are.

18. Illinois
Why aren’t they higher? Ron Zook. Guy can recruit, but they really should have someone else doing game day coaching.

19. Auburn - Tennessee

Auburn has a lot of guys back, but the guy they don’t have back is their defensive coordinator, Will Muschamp, who went to Texas this season. Auburn’s defense kept them in every game as their offense is, ah, mediocre at best.
Should Tennessee take their place?

20. Notre Dame
I kind of hate to rank them because Charlie Weis is an arrogant buffoon, but they won’t go 3-9 again. It’d be okay with me, but it isn’t going to happen. They spent a year getting a lot of experience, but more important, hearing about how badly they sucked. Of course, if they don't do well, then they'll drop out of the poll. Hee Haw!

21. Kansas - Oklahoma State
What to say about Kansas? They have a decent amount of talent returning, but if you thought Mizzou was one of those teams who can’t get over the top, you haven’t paid much attention to Kansas football over the years. They tend to appear every once in a while, then fade away just as quickly as they came. Want to prove me wrong? Win ten games this season.
Or does Oklahoma State belong here?

 

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Kansas should be higher (mid teens)

They play one of the toughest schedules in the country this year—the exact opposite from last year, which means that they could both be a better team then last year (likely) and lose more games as well (likely).

Oklahoma State is a nice team for your 20-25 spots as well…they remind me of Kansas, ironically, from last year.

And get Notre Dame out of there. You might as well put Duke in there if you’re gonna do that.

"If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate!"

by kshusker on Aug 13, 2008 8:14 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point

on Notre Dame. If I’m going to make Nebraska prove it, so should they.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
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by corn blight on Aug 13, 2008 11:56 PM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To follow up:
Note this: That two Mizzou bloggers, Mizzourah and Rock M Nation rank themselves below Oklahoma shows either their insecurity about their team or their inherent bias against their own homerism. I vote the former. What say ye?

I can’t speak for Mizzourah, but here’s a couple of thoughts on why I have OU ahead of Mizzou:
- Everyone expects the sophomore slump from Sam Bradford, but it’s hard to slump with that offensive line giving you as much time as he’ll get in the pocket. McCoy certainly didn’t have that benefit in his second season.
- In the same way I trust Pete Carroll to reload on defense, I trust Bob Stoops in the same manner.
- I realistically think that if OU and MU were to meet at Arrowhead, OU would win 51 out of 100 times. That’s subject to change once I see the teams more, but for now, I think they are just barely the better football team.

OK, and anti-homerism might have a little bit to do with it…

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by rptgwb on Aug 13, 2008 8:31 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SEC

I think ranking Georgia #1 is probably right on August 13th. I don’t think that they finish there. I think the SEC schedule is going to be too much for any one of those teams to come out completely unscathed..and loses later in the season hurt more—as your comments on tOSU indicate.

The comments about Bradford are something to consider, but that is the only thing I see keeping from OU from running the table.

My thinking has OU and USC or tOSU in the championship.

by Husker_Engineer on Aug 13, 2008 10:38 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mizzou

I can only give my opinion as a Mizzou fan on why I’d also rank OU higher:

1. OU thoroughly controlled Mizzou twice last year and even with some significant grad losses on defense they seem to be able to fashion defensive studs from water and clay in Norman.

2. No matter the sport, when Mizzou enters a season this highly touted they inevitably choke (I don’t believe anybody expected a top 5 finish for Mizzou going into last season, hence lower expectations than this year’s inflated title talk). In these cases skepticism is the only thing that keeps the Mizzou fan from the nearest bridge.

I guess my point is that for me, yes, there’s insecurity.

by Maddogmag on Aug 13, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is the insanity of doing preseason polls...

I mean, if you really are going to use Glenn Dorsey as part of the basis for voting for LSU, then there is something wrong with the process. It’s okay to take your shot and predict an order of finish, but the problem is that these preseason rankings influence the week 1 standings, which influence the week 2 standings, etc. etc.

If I had to vote, my top 5 would include Georgia, Oklahoma, Florida, Missouri, and USC. Ohio State deserves absolutely no mention unless they can beat USC.

by Husker Mike on Aug 13, 2008 9:06 PM CDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

yes it is, but it’s also part of the fun.

At least our poll can be discussed, unlike the coaches or the AP.

Dorsey….. I think Dorsey was one of those players that I turned on LSU just to watch. I realize most people watch the skill guys, but I normally watch the lines more than most. So, him gone, yeah, I think it’s a big loss for LSU, bigger than most people realize. There’s a reason by he was cut block by Auburn and injured. I don’t see that as being something wrong with the process at all – it’s making a point about a marquee player, one of the best in the nation, being gone from a team.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!

by corn blight on Aug 14, 2008 12:02 AM CDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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