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What's up Nebraska people? Penn State fan here. I've got a question for you guys. There is a lot of speculation about what's going to happen with Paterno after this season, and a lot of PSU message boards are making it out to be some sort of battle royale between JoePa and PSU's president, Graham Spanier. Within some of the discussions, there have been some comments from people about how Spanier has a lot to do with the coaching mess you guys went through with Solich, Callahan, etc. But that's not making sense to me. Spanier left Nebraska in 1995. Osborne coached two more years, then Solich took over for a few years. Right? So, I'm trying to figure out how much that really could have to do with Spanier. I was hoping the Corn Nation could provide some insight. Thanks.

Oh, and are we officially scheduled to play you guys in 2014-15? I really liked our home-and-home from a couple years ago.

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had about as much to do with the coaching mess as I did honestly. Osborne went on, Bill Byrne (now at A&M) came in. Oz picked his lil buddy and we saw what it’s like to hand a five-year-old a chainsaw. Honestly I think you’re forgetting one combatant: the boosters. Money talks, my friend and it ways you couldn’t even imagine in college football.

by Blankman on Jul 14, 2008 7:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmmm

I’d agree with that, I don’t think Spanier had a lot to do with the coaching mess. OTOH, he had a lot to do with the screw job we got out of the formation of the Big 12 conference.

On top of that, he was a horrible Chancellor for us. Spanier was all about style, not substance and that doesn’t fly in Nebraska. I’m glad he left.

My impression of Spanier is that he’s spineless, so I doubt there will be much of a battle about JoePa that comes from Spanier. Someone else will be pushing those buttons.

I haven’t heard anything about Penn State in 2014, 2015. It’d be nice. We’d like to pay you back for that ass-kicking you laid on us our last trip to Happy Valley.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!

by Jon Johnston on Jul 14, 2008 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

The way some PSU message boards put it, you’d think Spanier was some evil genius that single-handedly caused the demise of Nebraska football and is about to do the same to Penn State.

Interesting that you’d call Spanier spineless. I’ve posed this question on a few Nebraska boards and it seems like he stood up to Osborne naming Byne the AD.

by speedomike on Jul 14, 2008 10:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Double J

got it right. Spainer knew how to look the other way and left us sans an annual Oklahoma game and I greatly prefer Harvey.

The rumors they do swirl regarding Penn State but nothing’s official…yet.

By the way in terms of standing up to Osborne much like in several if not most instances, T.O. had the final say.

by Blankman on Jul 14, 2008 10:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I blame Spanier a lot

Tom Osborne thought he’d eventually retire from coaching and became athletic director. When Bob Devaney retired, Spanier went outside the athletic department to hire Bill Byrne rather than choose Osborne or an interim guy from within the department (such as Al Papik) to take over. That blocked Osborne’s path to the AD’s office, and sent him into politics after he retired from coaching.

When Byrne left for A&M, Steve Pederson was hired instead… and Pederson (and Harvey Perlman) came up with the bright idea of hiring Bill Callahan as head coach. Something that wouldn’t have happened if Spanier hadn’t chosen Byrne.

by Husker Mike on Jul 15, 2008 6:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The conspiracy widens...

Mike always cracks me up with his poring over the past so he can point fingers at everyone who’s to blame for all the ways that he’s been wronged as a Husker fan.
But just think…if all that stuff hadn’t happened, we could still have Solich as our coach (he of middling MAC success)! That would be awesome…damn you Spanier!!

This “Grand Conspiracy of the Undoing of the Glory of the Nebraska Way™” simply must receive greater visibility! Surely, it must go even deeper still. Did Dave Hergert have anything to do with this mess we’re in? I’ll bet so. I’m gonna go ahead and just give him the distinction of “conduct unbecoming a Husker” anyway…that guy’s a slimeball regardless, so he’s got it coming. But who hired Spanier, anyway? I went to UNL with a guy whose father was a regent at the time…I’ll bet he was in on it. Regent John Payne was once under review by the Attorney General’s office for violating the open meeting law. That does it…seems like a pretty open and shut case to me. Who voted for that guy anyway? This conspiracy is so broad that it now can include the individual members of the Kearney voting community who elected regent Payne to his office in the first place. You heard it here first…they’re in on it, I just know it…they must be held accountable for this outrage—I’ll bet a few of them even have the audacity to still call themselves Husker fans.

But it doesn’t stop there—are you kidding me?! If the geography of the region wouldn’t have allowed for a river to fork at 41 degrees north and 100 degrees west, the city of north platte would cease to exist and therefore so also would Steve Pederson. So thanks a lot, celestial creator of the universe!

But in all seriousness…All I know about Spanier is that he was at UNL at the same time I was (91-95) and when I started college, we had keg parties on the roof of our fraternity house…and by the time I was done, we had rent-a-cops policing all communal areas of the house for any signs of fun being had. I don’t really know much about his involvement in any administrative behind-the-scenes athletic department machinations…but he was definitely not a popular dude with early 90’s UNL greeks.

by DTsker on Jul 17, 2008 5:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I know you dismiss me as a conspiracy theorist...

...but I’m not making this story up either.

Osborne and his mentor and predecessor, athletic director Bob Devaney, had a succession plan already worked out when Spanier arrived from Oregon State in 1991.
That plan: Devaney would retire as AD in 1992. Their mutual friend and longtime Nebraska compliance guru, Al Papik, would take over and keep the seat warm for five years or so. Then Osborne would retire at around age 60 and slide into the AD’s post.
Spanier heard of that plan. Then he implemented his own. He instead launched a nationwide search for what he fervently believed the post urgently required—not just a store manager from the retired-coach football pipeline but a vital financial rainmaker who could raise the school’s athletic brand and pump its budget.
He ended up plucking Bill Byrne from his old school’s rival, Oregon.
“The decision was made to hire Bill Byrne, and Al was left out of the loop,” Osborne told The Omaha World-Herald in December. “That ended any thoughts I had about becoming athletic director. When my coaching career was over, it left me with a lot of loose ends.”

You are right, we need to move beyond the whole Pederson/Callahan years. And we will, but we’ve got to get the next era started first. But in this case, the question was raised as to how Spanier handled things in Lincoln.

by Husker Mike on Jul 17, 2008 10:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I liked

Bill Byrne. A lot. He moved the UNL athletic department out of the dark ages, where it’d probably stayed had we kept along the same path. Hard to say whether or not we’d have the baseball team we do now, and I certainly enjoy that aspect of Husker athletics.

But… Spanier. Bleah. I’m obviously older than you guys, and there were a lot of people who felt Spanier was a bullshit artist of the highest degree.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!

by Jon Johnston on Jul 17, 2008 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good link, Mike...

You’re absolutely right to have the reasoning you do on this one and I didn’t mean to take anything away from you there…I just couldn’t resist giving you a hard time. I can go either way on Byrne…on one hand, he did sort of start the ball rolling on expanding the visibility of all sports (as Corn Blight mentioned) but he also did sort of establish the era of the “corporatized athletic department” at NU…making it more of a commercial company than the more old-school atmosphere that preceded it.

Consider that the Tunnel Walk started under Byrne’s watch…such a “change in tradition” was embraced and thought of as very cool by most fans of the day (of course they may very well have cared less, being so distracted by the high-caliber product on the field). Whereas fans like myself remember when the stadium atmosphere was less like an NFL-game and folks didn’t just sit in a zombie-like trance, staring at the big glowing signs for half the game. Memorial stadium was the first exclusively-college venue to utilize such a jumbotron. Like CB also mentioned, this sort of took us into the future, so to speak…whether that’s good or bad is up for debate. I’d guess that the athletic department’s ability to function as fluidly as it has for many years is generally a good thing in my book…they quite frankly probably wouldn’t have had the money to pour into smaller-sport programs if someone hadn’t have made more of a priority of the national-branding of the NU license…and after all, Dollar Bill didn’t get his name for no reason. He was also a big supporter of Title IX and did a lot to ensure NU’s compliance…if you’re into that sort of thing.

But it seems to make me wonder what the reaction to bringing in 25-foot scoreboards and starting women’s soccer teams would’ve been had it been Steve Pederson at the controls…I don’t think the sum total of ALL of the changes Pederson initiated resulted in as drastic a break from tradition as the single act of installing the HuskerVision screens…at least not from the “traditional fan” perspective. Anyone who attended a game pre-1994 can tell you that the culture and tradition of game day was significantly altered forever-cup fights during timeouts were replaced by the Mountain Dew under the cap games; the attention paid by the student section to things such as counting the steps as the cop ran up them in the southwest corner at the start of the 4th quarter was replaced by focusing in on some more crap brought to you by Amigos, Valentinos, Sartor Haman or some other paid advertiser-and as such, the spontaneity and creativity that the fans (see also: students) used to exhibit in entertaining themselves in the down time was forever rendered unnecessary…for going on 15 years the old, rowdy “traditional” game-day environment has evolved into one inhabited by good little consumers who dutifully turn to the screens every time they are beckoned.

So was Byrne good or bad? Like I said, I suppose that’s plenty open to debate. But you’re right…this one’s about Spanier anyway, so what’s it matter?! Just wanted you to know I was just messing with you…you’re seriously gonna tie yourself in knots fixating on what beget what to set into motion the events that led to the reign of SP/BC! I can only wish that the Bo era offers a reprieve for you…and quickly!

by DTsker on Jul 18, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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