Shooting Pointe Blank: Get Out N’ Vote Edition
First, if the polls are still open and you haven’t: GET OUT AND VOTE!
Now then: Norman, Oklahoma. I spent a month there one night. One thing I’ve learned in the game of football is that when a cornerback can not only jump your quarterback’s pass but do so in stride perhaps you’ve become too predictable. That pass is Shawn Watson’s Solich moment and reports indicate he hasn’t left the shower since Sunday trying to scrub that stank off. Yes, Nebraska got clobbered and they should’ve and why? Because a team, not just an extraordinarily loaded team, a team executed well. There are other Big XII North teams that have given Oklahoma more of a fight than Nebraska did. Take Kansas State for example.
I was chatting with a good friend of mine who pointed out KSU was tied with Oklahoma at 28-28 during their game at one point. Now the Okies did score four touchdowns in seven minutes to go into half at 55-28. Why is it that Ron Prince, a man that will surely not make it through the rest of the year, can coach a team that can come back from a 21 point deficit with 3:04 left in the first quarter against a team like Oklahoma yet Bo Pelini cannot? As my friend dutifully pointed out talent can be used as an excuse for half of that argument only and he’s right.
You know what I found interesting? There’s a young man by the name of Travis Lewis on Oklahoma’s roster. Travis was down to Nebraska and Oklahoma before deciding to go to OU at the last moment. I see a lot of talented true freshman on Nebraska’s sideline. David Whitmore, Josh Williams, Cameron Meredith, Sean Fisher, Will Compton. None of these young men have played. Travis Lewis is a fantastic talent and indeed, he redshirted, but he could afford to. He plays for Oklahoma in 2008. He led the team in tackles against Nebraska last Saturday. More than half he made himself.
I’m going to preface my following statement with this: I have no reason to dislike any player on the Nebraska roster until I hear a reason to do otherwise and you guys know that I make my dislike unknown. Vast majority of ‘em are probably great guys, I’ve gotten to meet a few really great ones, but you know what? Josh Williams would beat out Pierre Allen. Cameron Meredith would beat out Clayton Sievers. There is an answer to Larry Asante and Matt O’Hanlon and yet it’s not being scribbled down on the test that is athletic competition on Saturdays and I ask why?
If you can tell me, I’d love to know. Oh, of course the coaches play the best players, right, I forgot. So when these same guys who are not on the field beat out the same guys who are playing now next Spring then what? S&C Magic? Here’s a better question: WHEN, not if, WHEN these players beat out their competitors, what happens because they haven’t seen a down of Division 1-A football? I’ve said it before and I’ll said it again until I drop dead: Talent can only cover up so much.
Nebraska plays Florida Atlantic and Arkansas State before travelling to Blacksburg to play the Virginia Tech Hokies and return the favor for this year before coming home to play my lovable losers, the Louisiana-Lafayette Ragin’ Cajuns. Be glad. Be VERY glad because next comes Missouri in Columbia and while they may not be as good as 2008, they will be good enough to put a hurting on a team with a new starting QB and a lot of new faces on both sides of the ball.
I think Nebraska beats Kansas, I really do. I think Nebraska goes 3-0 in these final three games, beats a mediocre Big 10 team in a hot place and goes 8-4. Decent record, but there are still many management changes that need to be made both in personnel and staff. 2008 ain’t done yet, but I can still see glaring errors a mile away. Dave Gillespie recruited for Nebraska once. I know trouble when I see it.
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Great post-
I have similar questions.
Is this the plan? Did Bo decide that burning the red shirts wouldn’t result in more wins, or not enough wins to justify burning them?
Does NU have a plan?
Can we talk about the plan, if we have one?
How will this affect recruiting? Are we losing kids that want to be able to play right away?
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by JLew on Nov 4, 2008 7:58 AM CST 0 recs
one thing
that we need to remember – EVERY new coach out there knows that their first season is a wash. They can talk all they want about “winning now”, but if you sacrifice today for tomorrow, you’re going to be in a helluva lot of trouble come tomorrow.
I don’t redshirting players will hurt recruiting, because you have an idea of whether or not a kid wants to play right away or is okay with a redshirt when you’re talking to them – hence, you already know where they stand.
I have no problem with going through this season with the guys we want and keeping the redshirts on for the future. If our vanity is so shallow as to require we burn them….. we deserve what we get, and we got that last season.
I think there’s a lot to be said for a coach standing up for the best interests of his players – that’s more important to a kid than whether or not he’s going to play right now or not. Kids aren’t stupid, they know when a coach is disengenuine, so it’s upon Pelini to do what he says he’s going to do.
If we don’t have the “best” players on the field right now, BFD. There you go!
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
by corn blight on Nov 4, 2008 11:26 AM CST 0 recs
Redshirts what to do?
Redshirting is a tricky business, to burn or not to burn that seems to be the question?
Pelini seems to be saying at this point in the season it isn’t worth burning the redshirt. He even came out and said he wouldn’t burn them now saying it wouldn’t be fair to the player. I agree at this point it wouldn’t make any sense but earlier in the season who knows. I trust he knows his players better than we do. I wonder if he didn’t talk to Osborne about this issue. Correct me if I am wrong, but, I don’t remember Osborne playing a lot of true freshman or burning redshirts, although if you look back he probably did at some point. I just don’t know of very many if any.
by Huzkerfan on Nov 4, 2008 12:03 PM CST 0 recs
depends
on what point you’re going to look at Osborne’s career. For many years true freshman were not allowed to play varsity football. They had freshman only teams – Nebraska played four games a season. That occurred until… I want to say the late 70s.
Otherwise, we always had a lot of depth then.
You know, now that I think about it, the universe has changed since Osborne was coach. 10 years may not seem a long time, but if you look at what’s happened to college football over that 10 years, there have been a TON of changes. Budgets have sky-rocketed, and with those budgets and salaries come ultra-high expectations.
Along with those costs, the cost of tuition has skyrocketed, so kids who may have walked-on, or been willing to take a redshirt year are looking for a free ride and a chance to play at a non-powerhouse school, especially the ones that are not highly graded stars, i.e. the ones you’d use to round out a full, deep roster.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
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Corn Nation!
by corn blight on
Nov 4, 2008 2:51 PM CST
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Nebraska
actually still had a freshmen team into the mid to late 80s. Kevin Hinton played on it and he graduated in ’84 (high school). Not sure if freshmen were allowed to play at that time or not but NU still had a freshmen team.
by taflorom on
Nov 4, 2008 8:59 PM CST
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How many
true freshman are truly ready to play college football the day they step on the field? Sure, there are a few exceptions to the rule, Sam Bradford, Colt McCoy and you could go on and on and on had pretty decent freshman seasons. Many just have natural talent. The vast majority need to be cultivated into the kind of football players the coaches need and thats done through the redshirt season.
Lets face it, most true freshmen can’t/won’t/don’t learn the playbooks. Most of them, its their first time away from home in a place they have never been before on their own. I like seeing a freshman phenom tearing things up but there are also alot of mistakes made.
by 96operator on Nov 4, 2008 1:16 PM CST 0 recs
I agree with both
Things have surely changed in the last ten years, just ask Phil Fulmer. And I think you are right 96 most freshman just aren’t ready, with of course the very few exceptions. Crabtree, McCoy, and Bradford all were exceptional freshman and all are now Heisman canidates those are rare. Did Tommie Frazier play as a freshman or sophomore I can’t remember, has it been that long? Do you guys see Tennessee going through a prolonged downturn similar to Nebraska and Oklahoma? The situation to me has a very similar feel as NU when they fired Frank. Be careful what you wish for Tennessee fans you just might get it.
by Huzkerfan on Nov 4, 2008 8:15 PM CST 0 recs
Frazier
did play as a freshmen but did not start the season as the starting qb. It was his freshmen year that we lost to ISU 19-10 at ISU and MR. CB taught the ISU students on how to charge the field and tear down the goalpost.
by taflorom on
Nov 4, 2008 9:01 PM CST
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Actually
dont mean to be picky but if they win out and then win the bowl they would be 9-4 not 8-4.
by taflorom on Nov 4, 2008 10:12 PM CST 0 recs
Another item
staff changes….. man, I’d hate to be the coach that was judged on this team’s performance. I realize it’s their job to get the most out of what they’ve been given, but for a single year you’re going to judge me on another guy’s damaged goods?
Moreso, you going to fire Mike Ekeler and hire someone else for this group of linebackers? Barney Cotton for this group of linemen? I don’t think so.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
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Corn Nation!
by corn blight on Nov 4, 2008 10:31 PM CST 0 recs
Changes?
I think you are right blight. It is to early to go putting heads on the chopping block. Rome wasn’t built in a day. I think overall we are playing better than last year and the coaching staff has a lot to do with it.
by Huzkerfan on
Nov 4, 2008 10:46 PM CST
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Is someone calling for the coaches to be fired?
They get time to recruit their players, install their systems. No one should be fired.
Now I do think it’s fair to look and see how the coaches are doing.
Why are continued breakdowns, and miss communication in the defensive backfield? Wasn’t better coaching going to improve many of the D’s ills of last year? Were the schemes actually sound last year, and NU didn’t have the players on defense to compete? What the hell was the recruiting strategy of the former staff as far as defense goes?
What is the recruiting strategy now, and is NU going to be able to recruit the athletes to compete with Texas, and Oklahoma? Are they actively going after the big impact recruits? Of any BC showed that you can have highly rated classes come to Nebraska, you jusy have to do something once you get them here.
Last year a lot of people were pointing to Kansas as a model for NU, 3* recruits, stress solid coaching, and player development. Well how does that look this year? KU and even MU cannot beat Texas and Oklahoma, let alone the other powers in the B12 South.
First things first, finish strong this year, then start working on the B12 north, then look to take the B12.
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by JLew on
Nov 4, 2008 11:00 PM CST
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Its
highly evident that Nebraska does not have the speed to compete with the Big 12 South and Misery (and probably Kansas too). But the D-line is alot more explosive and I think we have James Dobson’s program to thank for that. It will take a few years to develop the speed we need to compete with OU, UT et al.
I totally agree, solid coaching and player development are key to success. Osborne only had a few of the so called “highly coveted” recruits, and now we call him a legend. Bo has a good set of coaches. As far as I can tell the players respect and will play for him/them.
People are too damn impatient and in need of instant gratification now-a-days anyway. It was too bad to hear about Fulmer. He was a solid coach.
by 96operator on
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3* Recruits Still Get it Done
Texas Tech’s Rivals ratings: 45, 52, 25, 37, 33. Rankings continue to be illrelevant. You need football players that fit your program, irregardless of what the recruiting services think.
What do folks think of that 2005 “top 5” recruiting class Nebraska had? Some decent players, to be sure…but I think overall, it was actually a bit subpar. And most definitely overrated.
by Husker Mike on
Nov 5, 2008 6:58 AM CST
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perhaps
it’s that idea – “football players that fit your program”.
What the heck kind of football player is that now at Nebraska?
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by corn blight on
Nov 5, 2008 11:42 AM CST
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Thats
Bos job to figure out. He knows what he wants now he has to go get it. Stars wont matter.
by taflorom on
Nov 5, 2008 5:53 PM CST
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Blankman
in the last paragraph mentions staff and personnel changes.
Like I said, I’d hate to be judged on some of these units. OTOH, there’s something to be said for fulfilling your job requirement which is to get the most of out what you’ve got – whatever that may be. Hard stuff.
You saw Pelini glaring at Ekeler during the Oklahoma game. I notice at another popular board they’re wondering if Ekeler is on the hot seat, and I wonder what it is about us that we think that way. Are we looking for things to get riled up about? Maybe… it’s kind of fun, ain’t it?
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by corn blight on
Nov 5, 2008 11:41 AM CST
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Pelini's rath
was also felt by his brother Carl. I was at the game and I don’t know if they showed it on TV but he was after Carl a couple of different times. Carl wasn’t gettin many words in if any. Bo was letting him have it. Brother are brothers I have 3 and intense verbal exchanges are inevitable. Just so happens this brother duo is in a high profile position in Nebraska.
by Huzkerfan on
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btw
hit the “rec” button on this post to recommend it so it stays on the front page longer.
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by corn blight on Nov 5, 2008 11:42 AM CST 0 recs
Eck isn't on the hot seat
Eck’s one of the most beloved coaches by players and probably our best recruiter. To fire him would be nothing short of Ron Prince stupidity. If Bo doesn’t like the play of his linebackers, maybe playing someone instead of Matt Holt would’ve worked out for him and Eck better this year.
by Blankman on Nov 5, 2008 9:47 PM CST 0 recs
The only
coach who might not be here next year is Watson and that will be his choice I believe. Other wise everyone will be back. No one gets fired. Of course that doesn’t mean that someone wont leave to take a different job if its offered.
And the only coach Blankman wants to see replaced is Barney Cotton. Thats not happening after this year either.
Give the staff a chance for gods sake. We aren’t even done with year one and people are talking about coaches needing replaced and on the hot seat. Give it a rest already.
by taflorom on Nov 6, 2008 7:34 AM CST 0 recs
That's not true
I wouldn’t mind seeing Sanders gone, too. Besides, I was talking about some internal positions that you do not see on the sidelines and one you shouldn’t (Jamrog). Barney won’t be gone after this year, unfortunately.
by Blankman on Nov 6, 2008 9:10 AM CST 0 recs












