Nebraska - Oklahoma State Post Game Reaction: Time For A Change

by Jon Johnston on Oct 13, 2007 2:54 PM CDT in Football Comment 16 comments

Normally I'd call these posts an "over-reaction", but the problem is you have to care enough to over-react. This Husker team today clearly showed that they're not beyond complete embarrassment, from barely moving out of the tunnel walk to walking through the rest of the game.

I did watch the game today. Paid my thirty bucks, but for me it can be considered a business expense. Otherwise, I don't know why anyone would bother. If the team doesn't care, why should the fans?
You can blame coaches to a point but they clearly bare the final burden. The fact that this team didn't care enough to show up tells me that the problem extends beyond the coaches.
Kevin Cosgrove needs to be fired now, not at the end of the season. There has to be something done to shake up this team. Or get used to watching this garbage for the rest of the season. He makes enough money that he's not going to be destitute, so stop the crying and let him go. If Bill Callahan can't do that now, he probably isn't capable of doing it at the end of the season either.
There was a little booing. A little. Let's have a meltdown about it, shall we? Or should we let it go with the realization that something worse has happened. People have moved from disgust to apathy. It takes effort to boo. Could it be that this team is beyond effort? For a great many people, that's where we are now.
"Through These Gates Pass the Greatest Fans In College Football". Most people equate that with sportsmanship. I'd also equate it with intelligence. Nebraska know what they're seeing.
Your priority seating is based upon the contribution you gave this year, right? If you don't give that again next year, you'll lose those great seats, right? Well, in a normal year. So the question you're asking yourself is whether or not the base donation attached to those seats is going to drop like a rock. Right now, Harvey Perlman is wondering the same thing. The best thing you can do is call the athletic department and inform them that your base donation needs to go down but you expect the same seats next year.
This team could go 4-8. Prepare yourselves.

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Next week is our best chance for another "W"...

Both Billy C and Fran are in serious hot water.

by Husker Mike on Oct 13, 2007 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hot water?!

They're already cooked and served up.....

'za blang thang

by Ze Robertinho on Oct 14, 2007 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

aTm's offense....

Is extremely painful to watch. They keep saying how important McGee is to the team, but I actually think he's the main problem--along with their O scheme. McGee can't pass for sh*&t and he's a below average option QB. HELLO!

Even so, they have a good defense and their O can certainly put up 30+ on our D. Do I hear 4-4? I think I do.....

'za blang thang

by Ze Robertinho on Oct 14, 2007 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

the obsession with booing or not is irrelevant

change is needed
the players have quit

by royalsreview on Oct 14, 2007 12:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Booing

Some fans at the game said the performance was not even worthy of boos. I agree, I didn't hear much booing coming thru the radio broadcast.....

'za blang thang

by Ze Robertinho on Oct 14, 2007 6:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

what can i say?

right now, the ship is sinking and it doesn't look like anythings working?

how the heck did we get to this point? is it all coaching? i just can't believe callahan can be that bad.

by hack on Oct 14, 2007 1:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

As for Big Red,

More on that later, I'm still in denial.....now, where's my pacifier....?

'za blang thang

by Ze Robertinho on Oct 14, 2007 6:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

TIGGER FAN?!

Where are yoooo-u?! I hate to say I told you so, but you can't go around proclaiming a champion when it's just a flash in the pan. Boomer Sooner, Boomer Sooner....la, lala, la.....:)

'za blang thang

by Ze Robertinho on Oct 14, 2007 6:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

yeah

you're right. I mean, I wish we were like you guys. I mean, you hung in there with a top 5 team, leading in the third quarter, and then basically beat yourselves in turnovers after putting up yards and points on a great Oklahoma team.

We were at home and just STUNK up the joint against a very mediocre OkState team, going down 38-0 at home. God, we're just terrible. You guys hung with Oklahoma... if only we were more like Nebrask....

wait a second.

We were the ones that hung with OU!

We're the ones that are clearly the best team in the North and the second best team in the conference.

You guys were the ones that got... what's the word? Embarrassed? Demolished? Annihilated? Face rapped? I'm not sure words can describe what happened to you.

That's right! Now I remember!

Listen, I almost chimed in over here to give you guys some words of encouragement. You'll get your program back on track after you fire Callahan. It's a down year. It happens.

But then you had to go and start talkin' smack.

Listen, when you can get within 30 points of the Tigers...no...of Baylor? Then you can start running smack at the Tigers. Anyone that watched that game knows we were in it. Oklahoma's a damn fine team and took it to us, but we want a rematch on neutral field. Which we'll get in the Big 12 Championship game. You guys can watch. I have a feeling your season will be well over by then.

by MizzouRobot on Oct 14, 2007 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whatever,

You guys have a pesky team this year and we s*&ck. My issue is with Mizzou Fan going around like they've got a long tradition of excellence just because they put together a few good teams here and there. And to come on Big Red boards spewing off as such is really pretty disingenuous.

Fact is, MO is maybe the 4th best team in the C this year. I would still take TX as #2 and probably Tech as #3. Harrell gets my vote over CD. Mizzou will drop 2 more C games--just watch.

NE is a bottom feeder this year for the first time in the long and storied history. But it'll get turned around, N Fan just won't have it any other way.

'za blang thang

by Ze Robertinho on Oct 14, 2007 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I haven't come around

shoving it in anyone's face.

Let's take this from the back.

First time? This may be the first time you're a bottom feeder, but in reality, this is just a progression from a long downward spiral you've been going through. And how are you going to turn it around? Even if you get a new coach, your recruiting is going to take a hit. You're losing relevance by the day. People care now because of your storied history, but soon you'll just be another bad team that used to be good.

Unless you guys open the checkbook and go get a good coach. You know, someone who's not an NFL-retread.

Pesky? Pesky. Really. I'd say 41-6, third best offense in the country is more than "pesky." Pesky is how Blackshirts tackle this year. Our one loss is by 10 to the no.5 team in the country on the road. I live in Austin, so I get my share of Longhorn coverage. And they're pretty good, just not as good as Mizzou. Texas Tech is going to find out what a good team looks like next week in CoMo. They should have a good season, though they don't get to pad their stats against Nebraska, which is a shame. You could just give some respect where it's due, you know?

And let's clear this up right now.

NO MIZZOU FAN THINKS WE HAVE A HISTORY OF BEING GOOD.

At all. We're aware of how bad we've been historically. We've watched it. We've watched the Pinkel factor. But we're watching this team and actually seeing how well we're playing. Also, we don't rely on who we used to be to get us through (something you guys have to start doing). You're relying solely on "But We're Nebraska!") to get you through it. South Florida is the no.2 team in the country right now, guys. The past is just that. The past.

You have a storied history and a great program, with the best fans. But you have to stop thinking you're entitled to victories. And you might want to wake up and see that the rest of the North is catching up fast. And by catching up, I mean leaving you behind, sucking our dust off your feet.

By the way, to all the intelligent, respectful Husker fans on this board, you guys are great and I'm seriously not trying to shove it in. That's why I wasn't taunting all over this thing in the post-game threads last week. And if you think it shows how bad we've been that we have to ask for respect? Um. Yeah. I've got no answer. Well, besides "Scoreboard!"

by MizzouRobot on Oct 14, 2007 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Downward spiral?

So last year's 34-20 game-in-control-from-the-start 'W' for Big Red was part of this downward spiral? Who was in the conference championship game? Our upward spiral has been in place so long that the 3-4 subpar seasons we've had over the last few years are merely bumps in the road. Mizzou's sotry is the converse of that.

I'm not saying you don't have a decent team this year, but it's not champioship caliber and I offer Sat. night's outcome vs the Sooners as exibit 'A'.
Your upcoming loss--yes loss- to TTech will be offered up next week as exibit 'B'. Leach invented that spread stuff that you guys are copying and they run it much better than you guys. Harrell, crabtree, Amendola will have Piggy feeling like he's on 'crazy pills'.
Then, Mizzou will further display an 'also ran's' inconsistency by dropping a game to a north foe--probably KU.

TX could also beat Mizzou similar to the way OU did--they've got a defense similar to OU and they're starting to come together in a big way. Better athletes across the board.

If NE brought in, say, Bo P or Brian Kelly next year, there's no question in my mind that we would have at least 8 wins and be in the CC game in '09. In fact, if Cozahan does happen to stay, we'll probably get there on that time frame anyway. We've got a lot of inexperience on our D this year which is a big part of why we s*&ck: the fact that Coz doesn't have much of a clue doesn't help either. But, we shut you guys down pretty much the whole game last year because we had a seasoned defense. We're also breaking in a new QB this year and that's an issue. If Gabbert does come aboard, all I can say is watch out.

So, I am not anti Mizzou per say, I just calls things as I see them. If Mizzou's D gets up to the big leagues, then they might have a shot next year of getting into the CC game.

All I'm saying is that Mizzou Fan coming on Big Red board pumping up their team is just received with alot of, shall we say, 'skepticism'. At least GET to a CC game--you don't even have to win--for once in 40 years and then you might have a little bit to brag about.

So, how 'bout those RAMS?!!! 0-6, woohoo!

'za blang thang

by Ze Robertinho on Oct 14, 2007 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

In it?

That OU victory was never in doubt, IMO. MO made it interesting here and there, but viola, Pinkel Factor kicked in and it's like 'Heimlichs all around' the Mizzou sideline.
Go ahead, try and make us feel bad about '07 NE, but we have eyes of our own, thanks. Like I said, NE will win another Big XII CC before Mizzou gets it's first.

'za blang thang

by Ze Robertinho on Oct 14, 2007 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

In what? Volleyball? (Nice win there, by the way, in all seriousness).

I hate to break it to you, but Mizzou was up in the 3rd quarter. So if by never in doubt, you mean "totally up in the air until Mizzou shot itself in the foot, on the road, in a hostile environment, against the no. 5 team in the country" then yes, it was never in doubt. Look around. There's a reason we only dropped 4 spots in the poll. Hell, even the Oklahoma fans are saying it was a lot closer than the score, and they're weary of a rematch on neutral field. I'm really sad that Nebraska doesn't have to go to Norman. I'd like to see the all time NCAA single game scoring record broken, but alas, you're off the hook (although, hell, from the looks of it, A&M's got a shot at it)Look, Nebraska has a great tradition. But if you don't get it fixed, someone is going to take it over. And if you look around, Mizzou's improved every year. I'm aware of the Pinkel factor. But the Pinkel factor means we actually go to a bowl. Apparently the "Callahan" factor is losing all but 1 of your conference games and looking like complete jokes.

All I'm saying is, you're just being bitter. I'm willing to give your program credit, and would have had you whipped us 41-6.

And you can have all the eyes on your own you want. I don't think your AD really gives a fuck what the "greatest fans in college football (that left early yesterday) say.

by MizzouRobot on Oct 14, 2007 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mizzou "beat" Ill.

O.k., what I observed in that game was Mizzou escaping by the hair on their chinny chin chin: Ill. on Tigs' 10 yd line with less than a minute and a frosh QB throws an interception.
So, if what you mean by 'beat' is 'didn't lose when we easily could have', sure Tigs 'beat' Ill. Even proud NE Fan knows BR 'did not lose' to Wake and Ball St.
This is the same Ill. that lost to IA the other day 6-10. O.k., Ill. beat PSU and WI, WI being the only surprise there since PSU has a subpar O with a subpar QB in Morelli. But I looked at the BCS rankings this a.m. and couldn't find Ill., PSU, WI, or IA anywhere to be found. Huh!

The moral here is what Mizzou done to date: they 'did not lose' to a green Ill., rolled some cupcakes and a Big Red that is disarray. When they had to play some real competition in OU--well, we covered that topic.

So, Mizzou is #16 this week in the BCS and that's about where they should be until they prove themselves otherwise. Brag on for 5 more days....TTech, Graham Harrell, Michael Crabtree....OUCH!

'za blang thang

by Ze Robertinho on Oct 15, 2007 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nebraska Football is a Business

Like it or not, Steve Pederson has transformed Nebraska Football into a business. The business sells entertainment to Husker fans. So far, it has been a successful business. Like all sales organizations, you have to have a good product to sell. You also have a few other things that I'm not sure we have: 1)Goals; 2)Expectations; 3)Accountability; 4)Consequences; and 5) Compensation based on the success you have created. Maybe you think I'm taking this a little too far, but don't deceive yourself about what Nebraska football has become. Most fans know the program has changed, but if we have to change to keep winning, they will accept the change. Let's require Pederson, Callahan, and Cosgrove to have a little skin in the game. They get paid for the success they create, not for the apathetic mess we are presently mired in. I think these gentlemen would get more respect from the fans by trying something different, anything different. Give Husker Nation a little hope. Don't tell us you don't know what to do, even if you don't. When you come back week after week and say that we hope this week is better, and you haven't changed anything since the week before, shouldn't you expect more of the same? Nobody knows for sure what the solution(s) is(are), but this thing is going to get uglier in the next five weeks if nothing at all changes. I wish I had the answer, because, as a Husker fan, this is the most painful and embarassing situation I can remember.

by potsyweber on Oct 14, 2007 8:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs